Deborah Roberts

And in small town Texas, too. So you're talking a southern town, a fairly youngish preacher with his family. And, you know, that just sort of shocked everybody. It shocked everybody in the community.

And in small town Texas, too. So you're talking a southern town, a fairly youngish preacher with his family. And, you know, that just sort of shocked everybody. It shocked everybody in the community.

Now, Samantha, you were deeply involved in this story from the beginning, and you dug through all of the footage. And we're going to talk about that and how that made such a difference. But tell me about what drew you to this one.

Now, Samantha, you were deeply involved in this story from the beginning, and you dug through all of the footage. And we're going to talk about that and how that made such a difference. But tell me about what drew you to this one.

Yeah. And when you approach this, you know, again, as I said to Denise, you know, you're talking small town America and you've got to kind of dig into that psyche, too, of just how how shocking this is to people when something like this is revealed.

Yeah. And when you approach this, you know, again, as I said to Denise, you know, you're talking small town America and you've got to kind of dig into that psyche, too, of just how how shocking this is to people when something like this is revealed.

This happened back in 2006. And, you know, when we go way back, it's sort of hard sometimes when we're trying to look into this, but archival footage played a big part of this. We're talking about this man who was convicted, his time in prison. Tell me all about that and going back in time.

This happened back in 2006. And, you know, when we go way back, it's sort of hard sometimes when we're trying to look into this, but archival footage played a big part of this. We're talking about this man who was convicted, his time in prison. Tell me all about that and going back in time.

But at that time, of course, he's saying he had nothing to do with it and I have nothing to hide, right?

But at that time, of course, he's saying he had nothing to do with it and I have nothing to hide, right?

Tell us a little bit about him because we talked about in the piece how he was polite and soft-spoken. The community was sort of rallying behind him.

Tell us a little bit about him because we talked about in the piece how he was polite and soft-spoken. The community was sort of rallying behind him.

But when you're looking through, Samantha, all these tapes and you're seeing things sort of evolve over time, tell me a little bit about that. You've got to digitize this video. You're working with attorneys. People don't really know how much work goes in. They see what we put on the air. They don't know what's going on behind the scenes for us to be able to bring it.

But when you're looking through, Samantha, all these tapes and you're seeing things sort of evolve over time, tell me a little bit about that. You've got to digitize this video. You're working with attorneys. People don't really know how much work goes in. They see what we put on the air. They don't know what's going on behind the scenes for us to be able to bring it.

And this story was very largely dependent on all this video.

And this story was very largely dependent on all this video.

And that's what's interesting about this program because we get a chance now on this podcast to give people a taste of some things that we didn't put in our show, in our program. So here's some material from the archive from a 2007 interview with Matt Baker before his trial and before he was convicted, which didn't make it into our program. Take a listen.

And that's what's interesting about this program because we get a chance now on this podcast to give people a taste of some things that we didn't put in our show, in our program. So here's some material from the archive from a 2007 interview with Matt Baker before his trial and before he was convicted, which didn't make it into our program. Take a listen.

And his voice, I mean, you know, of course, you guys got to see more of him, but to just even hear his voice, it just sounds so small town, southern guy, innocent. Denise, when you're combing through the archives, give people a sense of how we decide, like

And his voice, I mean, you know, of course, you guys got to see more of him, but to just even hear his voice, it just sounds so small town, southern guy, innocent. Denise, when you're combing through the archives, give people a sense of how we decide, like