Deborah Roberts

Some of the most fascinating audio presented at this trial came from conversations that police recorded between Monica Cimentelli and her lover, Robert Baker. You brought us, Pat, one of those, and you can set up this clip for us because the fascinating thing is you've got two different people here, two different stories. Tell us what you brought to us.

But clever police work.

But clever police work.

Calling each other and the phone calls got a little steamy too, right?

Calling each other and the phone calls got a little steamy too, right?

Let's take a listen.

Let's take a listen.

You know, they're talking about their love for each other and their lust for each other. And I'm sure viewers were probably struck by this, too, when this aired. But there's no sense of we're in trouble. What do we do? Oh, my gosh. How do we get here? None of that.

You know, they're talking about their love for each other and their lust for each other. And I'm sure viewers were probably struck by this, too, when this aired. But there's no sense of we're in trouble. What do we do? Oh, my gosh. How do we get here? None of that.

Well, that's what I wanted to get at because you've been covering these cases for decades. You know, you have been at it a long time, as have I. And the technology has changed a lot over the years. And when you talk about sometimes things that are circumstantial, and that happens a lot with the cases we cover on 2020.

Well, that's what I wanted to get at because you've been covering these cases for decades. You know, you have been at it a long time, as have I. And the technology has changed a lot over the years. And when you talk about sometimes things that are circumstantial, and that happens a lot with the cases we cover on 2020.

But that has changed a lot and made the police work a little bit more fruitful, hasn't it?

But that has changed a lot and made the police work a little bit more fruitful, hasn't it?

That's what's so interesting, the timeline, you know, and they're able to do that with all of this technology. Yeah, kind of walk us through that a little bit.

That's what's so interesting, the timeline, you know, and they're able to do that with all of this technology. Yeah, kind of walk us through that a little bit.

Let's talk about your reaction, Pat, in the courtroom, because one of the things that just grabs me in a lot of our reporting is when these cases are revealed and there are kids involved. And so Monica's then 16-year-old daughter, Isabella, is the one who found her father brutally, brutally stabbed to death outside their house near the pool. And she testified in the trial.

Let's talk about your reaction, Pat, in the courtroom, because one of the things that just grabs me in a lot of our reporting is when these cases are revealed and there are kids involved. And so Monica's then 16-year-old daughter, Isabella, is the one who found her father brutally, brutally stabbed to death outside their house near the pool. And she testified in the trial.

And talk to us about the family and watching that and seeing the daughter's testimony, and particularly for you as, you know, not just as a journalist, but as a person.

And talk to us about the family and watching that and seeing the daughter's testimony, and particularly for you as, you know, not just as a journalist, but as a person.

And that had such an impact in the courtroom, too, when you think about that. But yet, Isabella still, you know, defends her mom. I mean, she wants to actually see her mom.