Deborah Roberts

I was. But of course, I needed to feel like it was safe. Tell us a little bit about how you go about doing something like that. Because one of the challenges was also this time of year, getting a boat, finding a boat that was similar to his to go out. Tell us about how you do that.

And we don't really, really know where it happened. That's part of the intrigue of the story.

And we don't really, really know where it happened. That's part of the intrigue of the story.

And I didn't want to be throwing up.

And I didn't want to be throwing up.

It was beautiful. And, of course, the crew knew so much about this story, just having been up there. This is an area that you know well, too, because you grew up or spent time up in that area?

It was beautiful. And, of course, the crew knew so much about this story, just having been up there. This is an area that you know well, too, because you grew up or spent time up in that area?

That's very cool. That doesn't happen very often. Well, more to talk about on this, but we're going to take a quick break. And when we come back, more on this story and our trip out to sea with Jonathan.

That's very cool. That doesn't happen very often. Well, more to talk about on this, but we're going to take a quick break. And when we come back, more on this story and our trip out to sea with Jonathan.

Welcome back to the 2020 After Show. Jonathan is here with me. One of the particular challenges, of course, of this story is that it did happen out there in the ocean. And so we're on this boat and trying to figure out what happened at sea. You bring the maritime lawyer who was involved in this case out to sea to talk to us a little bit about it.

Welcome back to the 2020 After Show. Jonathan is here with me. One of the particular challenges, of course, of this story is that it did happen out there in the ocean. And so we're on this boat and trying to figure out what happened at sea. You bring the maritime lawyer who was involved in this case out to sea to talk to us a little bit about it.

And one of the things I found fascinating is hearing him talk about the very specific sort of the science of when they began to feel like Nathan's story sort of didn't add up about where he said the boat may have gone down, where he was rescued. I mean, that was pretty intriguing.

And one of the things I found fascinating is hearing him talk about the very specific sort of the science of when they began to feel like Nathan's story sort of didn't add up about where he said the boat may have gone down, where he was rescued. I mean, that was pretty intriguing.

How could you not be able to talk to her, you know, in a very panic kind of stricken sort of way?

How could you not be able to talk to her, you know, in a very panic kind of stricken sort of way?

Because I always thought maybe it would be something that was more complicated. And he's like, no, you just like press this one little button and that's it.

Because I always thought maybe it would be something that was more complicated. And he's like, no, you just like press this one little button and that's it.

You would see her going down. You would think.

You would see her going down. You would think.

I just did that bit on the boat in addition to interviewing folks. But you actually got in a life raft because he said he survived a little more than a week with supplies out on a life raft. You actually got in one.