Deborah Treisman

So, you know, we do have this flash forward at the end to Kara as an adult with her adult daughters, and that serves a purpose.

It shows us how much has changed socially in attitudes towards young women and sex, or in young women's attitudes towards sex, I suppose.

And it also shows us Kara at a different time of her life, and I'm wondering how you think she has evolved from

Raises but doesn't answer.

Yeah, and one thing that Kara doesn't mention in relationship to her daughters is

The fact that back in 1980, sexual discovery was discovery.

It was a first time.

No one had seen it on the internet.

And that's a huge, huge difference for her daughter's generation.

Yeah, and ultimately we probably just have to listen to both.

Yeah.

Well, thank you so much, Sarah.

This was great fun.

Joan Silber has published 10 books of fiction, including the story collections Ideas of Heaven and Fools, and the novels Improvement, for which she won the National Book Critics Circle Award and the Penn Faulkner Award, and Mercy, which was published last year.

Her most recent story in The New Yorker, Safety, was also published last year.

Sarah Swanyen Bynum is the author of the novels Madeline is Sleeping, a National Book Award finalist, and Ms.

Hempel Chronicles, and the story collection likes.

She was named one of the New Yorker's 20 Under 40 Fiction Writers in 2010, and she has been publishing fiction in the magazine since 2008.

Thank you.

I'm Deborah Treisman.