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Deborah Treisman

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321 total appearances

Appearances Over Time

Podcast Appearances

The New Yorker: Fiction
Han Ong Reads Lyudmila Ulitskaya

They can't see the beauty in it.

The New Yorker: Fiction
Han Ong Reads Lyudmila Ulitskaya

They can't see what it is.

The New Yorker: Fiction
Han Ong Reads Lyudmila Ulitskaya

They just have to, you know, pin a label on it.

The New Yorker: Fiction
Han Ong Reads Lyudmila Ulitskaya

But then he goes off and he does his two years in the camp.

The New Yorker: Fiction
Han Ong Reads Lyudmila Ulitskaya

We don't hear anything about it.

The New Yorker: Fiction
Han Ong Reads Lyudmila Ulitskaya

And then he's freed.

The New Yorker: Fiction
Han Ong Reads Lyudmila Ulitskaya

He's freed from his former marriage.

The New Yorker: Fiction
Han Ong Reads Lyudmila Ulitskaya

He's freed from...

The New Yorker: Fiction
Han Ong Reads Lyudmila Ulitskaya

I don't know, everything that was kind of holding him in.

The New Yorker: Fiction
Han Ong Reads Lyudmila Ulitskaya

And you might say it's not an advancement because he's no longer a dissident, right?

The New Yorker: Fiction
Han Ong Reads Lyudmila Ulitskaya

He's no longer fighting.

The New Yorker: Fiction
Han Ong Reads Lyudmila Ulitskaya

He's no longer an idealist in that way.

The New Yorker: Fiction
Han Ong Reads Lyudmila Ulitskaya

He just emigrates, finds a woman who's much better for him and emigrates.

The New Yorker: Fiction
Han Ong Reads Lyudmila Ulitskaya

So, you know, in some ways it's not a success story if what you want is to see your dissident prevailing over, you know, authoritarianism.

The New Yorker: Fiction
Han Ong Reads Lyudmila Ulitskaya

What do you think of that ending?

The New Yorker: Fiction
Han Ong Reads Lyudmila Ulitskaya

Well, there's something slightly mystifying to me in that paragraph where, you know, she says that he emigrates to Europe with his new wife.

The New Yorker: Fiction
Han Ong Reads Lyudmila Ulitskaya

And she says they were living happily in Europe until recently.

The New Yorker: Fiction
Han Ong Reads Lyudmila Ulitskaya

So we don't know what happened recently.

The New Yorker: Fiction
Han Ong Reads Lyudmila Ulitskaya

We don't know if they're no longer living, if they're no longer in Europe, or if they're no longer happy.

The New Yorker: Fiction
Han Ong Reads Lyudmila Ulitskaya

And, you know, except that her poor mother, she misses Boris Ivanovich because this is just a very ordinary engineer.