Dee Salmon

Because I know, you know, if you might have never even had sex before or you might not even have kissed someone, maybe you feel a lot of shame around that.

So how do you – I love what you said about microdosing.

But, yeah, how do you kind of put yourself out there and build that confidence to find these people in these communities?

Yeah, I love the point of safety because I remember when I lived regionally, I lived in Bunbury, which is like a regional area outside of Perth, two hours south.

And one of my gay friends, he felt like there wasn't a lot of queer guys to meet up with, but he would be on the apps.

And one of the things that he always spoke about was how many married men who hadn't

come out maybe and like embrace the sexuality and were married to women were the guys that he would hook up with but it was always done in secrecy right like it would be like on his lunch break in their home office or it would be like in their garage or like it was always done in these these moments that like could be i guess you're putting you're really putting yourself out there to rock up to someone's house and in a way i guess we all kind of do with apps but yeah what's your advice around like the safetyness of some people's secrecy around their sexuality

I love that so much because sometimes all you do need is just one good friend, right?

Like just one person who you feel safe to be yourself around.

We spoke about having to go to a city.

This was your experience.

What do you recommend with that?

Like I had a friend who would travel seven hours just for weekends just to be able to go and meet people.

If people have access to being able to travel, do you reckon that's a good way as well to meet like-minded people in your community?

Is there a bit of grief that you feel?

How did you feel about your hometown?

Did you feel like you loved it, but then there's these conflicting feelings of being like, but I feel held back by this place, but then I want to live here, but then I feel like I can't.

How did you navigate that complex, nuanced feeling?

And you have no idea as well, like what that could potentially the flow on effect of, you know, sometimes.

So I've learned so much from the hookup and I'm so privileged and blessed for that.