Dee Salmon

To be honest, like the first time I had a look at this, I was like, this is like a pickup artist book, but this is written in 2 AD in ancient Rome.

And book one is basically about the seduction of a woman.

So some of the chapters here are like,

how to find her search while you're out walking another chapter saying you could find her at the beach or at the theater or at the races or the circus then it kind of goes into like how to win her and it's like don't forget her birthday there's a whole chapter about don't forget her birthday like this doesn't sound that crazy to us right like this is so I just cannot believe that this was something that people were talking about

Yeah.

So then book two, this is a three part thing, but book two was like romancing her.

So how to keep her down, like keep her locked in.

Exactly.

So these ones are kind of interesting because it was like a bit of a contrast.

Some of them were like, be gentle and good tempered.

Be patient and comply.

Give her little tasteful gifts.

noted love that um comfort her in sickness let her miss you but not for too long there are also chapters about like stirring her jealousy but also at the same time respect her freedom is the next chapter don't mention her faults don't ask about her age and don't rush her

It was actually so, so interesting.

And yeah, I just found that really interesting because I was like, this is like a pickup guide in ancient Rome, but it's definitely showing us that there was like feelings of romantic love that wasn't just like try and get her for her money and like for the dowry or like for the

property and the inheritance yeah and it's clearly coming from a place as well of like respect and wanting to like you know wanting to keep her it's like you know favor her and compliment her and give her give her gifts and like respect her freedom uh well don't speak too soon though because some of this stuff i read it and i was literally like oh this is this is toxic as fuck like this is not respectful at all some of it was like just kind of gross pickup artistry things oh

Yeah, because remember, this was like a tongue in cheek, like this was kind of like funny, witty, but also like some people took this as like an actual guide to like get a woman.

So fascinating.

Yeah.

Yeah, so this is really interesting because I think we see China as like quite a conservative kind of culture and place and that they weren't super bold in like declaring love for each other, which I think overall is true.