Deepa Shivaram

President Trump is slated to give a speech in Detroit that's focused on his economic message.

What more can you tell us, Deepa?

Which is also notable because I feel like the economy is one of those things that even at times when people were mad about Trump, about everything else, the economy has always been something that voters generally trusted him on.

Oh, 100 percent.

Because of his business acumen.

Yeah.

What does the data say, Scott, about how the economy actually is right now?

I definitely I had that moment yesterday.

I opened up my gas bill and I was like, whoa, OK, that's where we're at right now.

Well, it's so interesting now this speech, Deepa, in Detroit from President Trump.

I'm curious about how he's thinking about this, because after the off-year elections that Democrats performed very well in November, I feel like that was kind of this blinking sign that said voters still really care about this affordability idea.

But as you mentioned, he just hasn't talked about it very much in the weeks and months following that.

Why hasn't this been more of a focus for him?

Well, that's what I was thinking about is like I thought for sure coming out of the 2024 election that one of the takeaways broadly in the U.S.

political system was that you can't tell voters the economy is good if they're not feeling it.

And it does feel like I don't know.

It does feel like it's still happening to some extent.

Well, do you think, Scott, that there's going to be some moment where the tax refunds start coming in in a couple months and people's opinions about all of this stuff just change?

Well, maybe the biggest thing potentially is interest rates.

And we're going to talk after a break about Trump's ongoing feud with the Fed and Fed Chair Jerome Powell.