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Demis Hassabis

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Lex Fridman Podcast
#475 – Demis Hassabis: Future of AI, Simulating Reality, Physics and Video Games

Of course, we cordially disagree, which is, you know, I feel like, I mean, he collaborated with a lot of good neuroscientists to see if he could find mechanisms for quantum mechanics behavior in the brain.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#475 – Demis Hassabis: Future of AI, Simulating Reality, Physics and Video Games

And to my knowledge, they haven't found anything convincing yet.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#475 – Demis Hassabis: Future of AI, Simulating Reality, Physics and Video Games

So my betting is that it is just classical computing that's going on in the brain, which suggests that all the phenomena are modelable or mimicable by a classical computer.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#475 – Demis Hassabis: Future of AI, Simulating Reality, Physics and Video Games

But we'll see.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#475 – Demis Hassabis: Future of AI, Simulating Reality, Physics and Video Games

There may be this final mysterious things of the feeling of consciousness, the qualia, these kinds of things that philosophers debate where it's unique to the substrate.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#475 – Demis Hassabis: Future of AI, Simulating Reality, Physics and Video Games

We may even come towards understanding that if we do things like Neuralink and have neural interfaces to the AI systems, which I think we probably will eventually, maybe to keep up with the AI systems, we might actually be able to feel for ourselves what it's like to compute on silicon.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#475 – Demis Hassabis: Future of AI, Simulating Reality, Physics and Video Games

And maybe that will tell us.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#475 – Demis Hassabis: Future of AI, Simulating Reality, Physics and Video Games

So I think it's going to be interesting.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#475 – Demis Hassabis: Future of AI, Simulating Reality, Physics and Video Games

I had a debate once with the late Daniel Dennett about

Lex Fridman Podcast
#475 – Demis Hassabis: Future of AI, Simulating Reality, Physics and Video Games

Why do we think each other are conscious?

Lex Fridman Podcast
#475 – Demis Hassabis: Future of AI, Simulating Reality, Physics and Video Games

Okay, so it's for two reasons.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#475 – Demis Hassabis: Future of AI, Simulating Reality, Physics and Video Games

One is you're exhibiting the same behavior that I am.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#475 – Demis Hassabis: Future of AI, Simulating Reality, Physics and Video Games

So that's one thing.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#475 – Demis Hassabis: Future of AI, Simulating Reality, Physics and Video Games

Behaviorally, you seem like a conscious being if I am.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#475 – Demis Hassabis: Future of AI, Simulating Reality, Physics and Video Games

But the second thing, which is often overlooked, is that we're running on the same substrate.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#475 – Demis Hassabis: Future of AI, Simulating Reality, Physics and Video Games

So if you're behaving in the same way and we're running on the same substrate, it's most parsimonious to assume you're feeling the same experience that I'm feeling.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#475 – Demis Hassabis: Future of AI, Simulating Reality, Physics and Video Games

But with an AI that's on silicon, we won't be able to rely on the second part, even if it exhibits the first part, that behavior looks like a behavior of a conscious being.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#475 – Demis Hassabis: Future of AI, Simulating Reality, Physics and Video Games

It might even claim it is.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#475 – Demis Hassabis: Future of AI, Simulating Reality, Physics and Video Games

But we wouldn't know how it actually felt.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#475 – Demis Hassabis: Future of AI, Simulating Reality, Physics and Video Games

And it probably couldn't know what we felt, at least in the first stages.