Demis Hassabis

We as a team were inspired by Lisa Doll's brilliance and nobleness.

And then maybe he got inspired by, you know, what AlphaGo was doing to then conjure this incredible inspirational moment.

It's all captured very well in the documentary about it.

And I think that will continue in many domains where there's this, at least again, for the foreseeable future of the humans bringing in their ingenuity and asking the right question, let's say, and then utilizing these tools in a way that then cracks a problem.

I think that's what I've always imagined when I was a kid and starting on this journey of like, I was, of course, fascinated by things like consciousness, did a neuroscience PhD to look at how the brain works, especially imagination and memory.

I focused on the hippocampus and it's sort of going to be interesting.

I always thought the best way, of course, one can philosophize about it and have thought experiments.

and maybe even do actual experiments like you do in neuroscience on real brains.

But in the end, I always imagine that building AI, a kind of intelligent artifact, and then comparing that to the human mind and seeing what the differences were would be the best way to uncover what's special about the human mind.

if indeed there is anything special.

And I suspect there probably is, but it's going to be hard to, you know, I think this journey we're on will help us understand that and define that.

And, you know, there may be a difference between carbon-based substrates that we are and silicon ones when they process information.

You know, one of the best definitions I like of consciousness is it's the way information feels when we process it, right?

Yeah.

It could be.

I mean, it's not a very helpful scientific explanation.

I think it's kind of interesting, intuitive one.

And so, you know, on this journey, this scientific journey we're on will, I think, help uncover that mystery.

Well, look, Penrose is an amazing thinker, one of the greatest of the modern era.

And we've had a lot of discussions about this.