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Demis Hassabis

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Dwarkesh Podcast
Demis Hassabis - Scaling, Superhuman AIs, AlphaZero atop LLMs, Rogue Nations Threat

So one has to expose them to a certain extent, although that's not necessarily the weight.

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Demis Hassabis - Scaling, Superhuman AIs, AlphaZero atop LLMs, Rogue Nations Threat

We have a lot of processes in place about making sure that only if you need them that you have access to those people who need access, have access.

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Demis Hassabis - Scaling, Superhuman AIs, AlphaZero atop LLMs, Rogue Nations Threat

And right now, I think we're still in the early days of those kinds of systems being at risk.

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Demis Hassabis - Scaling, Superhuman AIs, AlphaZero atop LLMs, Rogue Nations Threat

And as these systems become more powerful and more general and more capable, I think one has to look at the access question.

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Demis Hassabis - Scaling, Superhuman AIs, AlphaZero atop LLMs, Rogue Nations Threat

Well, we helped pioneer our LHF and other things like that, which can also be obviously used for performance, but also for safety.

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Demis Hassabis - Scaling, Superhuman AIs, AlphaZero atop LLMs, Rogue Nations Threat

I think that a lot of the self-play ideas and these kinds of things could also be used potentially to auto test a lot of the boundary conditions that you have with the new systems.

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Demis Hassabis - Scaling, Superhuman AIs, AlphaZero atop LLMs, Rogue Nations Threat

I mean, part of the issue is that with these sort of very general systems, there's so much surface area.

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Demis Hassabis - Scaling, Superhuman AIs, AlphaZero atop LLMs, Rogue Nations Threat

to cover about how these systems behave.

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Demis Hassabis - Scaling, Superhuman AIs, AlphaZero atop LLMs, Rogue Nations Threat

So I think we are going to need some automated testing.

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Demis Hassabis - Scaling, Superhuman AIs, AlphaZero atop LLMs, Rogue Nations Threat

And again, with things like simulations and games environment, very realistic environments, virtual environments, I think we have a long history in that and using those kinds of systems and making use of them for building AI algorithms.

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Demis Hassabis - Scaling, Superhuman AIs, AlphaZero atop LLMs, Rogue Nations Threat

So I think we can leverage all of that

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Demis Hassabis - Scaling, Superhuman AIs, AlphaZero atop LLMs, Rogue Nations Threat

history.

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Demis Hassabis - Scaling, Superhuman AIs, AlphaZero atop LLMs, Rogue Nations Threat

And then around at Google, we're very lucky we have some of the world's best cybersecurity experts, hardware designers.

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Demis Hassabis - Scaling, Superhuman AIs, AlphaZero atop LLMs, Rogue Nations Threat

So I think we can bring that to bear for security and safety as well.

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Demis Hassabis - Scaling, Superhuman AIs, AlphaZero atop LLMs, Rogue Nations Threat

Great, great.

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Demis Hassabis - Scaling, Superhuman AIs, AlphaZero atop LLMs, Rogue Nations Threat

Yeah, I think we're just at the beginning of actually understanding what a full multimodal model system, how exciting that might be to interact with.

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Demis Hassabis - Scaling, Superhuman AIs, AlphaZero atop LLMs, Rogue Nations Threat

And it'll be quite different to, I think, what we're used to today with the chatbots.

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Demis Hassabis - Scaling, Superhuman AIs, AlphaZero atop LLMs, Rogue Nations Threat

I think the next versions of this over the next year, 18 months, maybe we'll have some contextual understanding around the environment around you through a camera or whatever it is, a phone.

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Demis Hassabis - Scaling, Superhuman AIs, AlphaZero atop LLMs, Rogue Nations Threat

I could imagine that as the next awesome glasses, the next step.

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Demis Hassabis - Scaling, Superhuman AIs, AlphaZero atop LLMs, Rogue Nations Threat

And then I think that we'll start becoming more fluid in understanding, oh, let's sample from a video.