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Demis Hassabis

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All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Google DeepMind CEO Demis Hassabis on AI, Creativity, and a Golden Age of Science | All-In Summit

so so the reason we're building these kind of models is um we feel and we've always felt uh we're obviously progressing on the normal language models like with our gemini model but from the beginning with gemini we wanted it to be multimodal so we wanted it to input and take any kind of input images audio video and it can output anything

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Google DeepMind CEO Demis Hassabis on AI, Creativity, and a Golden Age of Science | All-In Summit

And so we've been very interested in this because for an AI to be truly general, to build AGI, we feel that the AGI system needs to understand the world around us and the physical world around us, not just the abstract world of languages or mathematics.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Google DeepMind CEO Demis Hassabis on AI, Creativity, and a Golden Age of Science | All-In Summit

And of course, that's what's critical for robotics to work.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Google DeepMind CEO Demis Hassabis on AI, Creativity, and a Golden Age of Science | All-In Summit

It's probably what's missing from it today.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Google DeepMind CEO Demis Hassabis on AI, Creativity, and a Golden Age of Science | All-In Summit

And also things like smart glasses, a smart glasses system that helps you in your everyday life.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Google DeepMind CEO Demis Hassabis on AI, Creativity, and a Golden Age of Science | All-In Summit

It's got to understand the physical context that you're in and how the intuitive physics of the world works.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Google DeepMind CEO Demis Hassabis on AI, Creativity, and a Golden Age of Science | All-In Summit

So we think that building these types of models, these Genie models and also Veo, the best text-to-video models,

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Google DeepMind CEO Demis Hassabis on AI, Creativity, and a Golden Age of Science | All-In Summit

Those are expressions of us building world models that understand the dynamics of the world, the physics of the world.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Google DeepMind CEO Demis Hassabis on AI, Creativity, and a Golden Age of Science | All-In Summit

If you can generate it, then that's an expression of your system understanding those dynamics.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Google DeepMind CEO Demis Hassabis on AI, Creativity, and a Golden Age of Science | All-In Summit

Yeah, that's right.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Google DeepMind CEO Demis Hassabis on AI, Creativity, and a Golden Age of Science | All-In Summit

So if you look at our Gemini Live version of Gemini, where you can hold up your phone to the world around you, I'd recommend any of you try it.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Google DeepMind CEO Demis Hassabis on AI, Creativity, and a Golden Age of Science | All-In Summit

It's kind of magical what it already understands about the physical world.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Google DeepMind CEO Demis Hassabis on AI, Creativity, and a Golden Age of Science | All-In Summit

You can think of the next step as incorporating that in some sort of more handy device like glasses.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Google DeepMind CEO Demis Hassabis on AI, Creativity, and a Golden Age of Science | All-In Summit

And then it will be an everyday assistant.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Google DeepMind CEO Demis Hassabis on AI, Creativity, and a Golden Age of Science | All-In Summit

It'll be able to recommend things to you as you're walking the streets, or we can embed it into Google Maps.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Google DeepMind CEO Demis Hassabis on AI, Creativity, and a Golden Age of Science | All-In Summit

And then with robotics, we've built something called Gemini robotics models, which are sort of fine-tuned Gemini with extra robotics data.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Google DeepMind CEO Demis Hassabis on AI, Creativity, and a Golden Age of Science | All-In Summit

And what's really cool about that is, and we released some demos of this over the summer, was we've got these tabletop setups of two hands interacting with objects on a table, two robotic hands.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Google DeepMind CEO Demis Hassabis on AI, Creativity, and a Golden Age of Science | All-In Summit

And you can just talk to the robot.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Google DeepMind CEO Demis Hassabis on AI, Creativity, and a Golden Age of Science | All-In Summit

So you can say, you know, put the yellow object into the red bucket or whatever it is, and it will interpret that instruction, that language instruction, into motor movements.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Google DeepMind CEO Demis Hassabis on AI, Creativity, and a Golden Age of Science | All-In Summit

And that's the power of a multimodal model rather than just a robotic-specific model, is that it will be able to bring in real-world understanding to the way you interact with it.