Demis Hassabis

So in the end, it will be the UI, UX that you need as well as the understanding the robots need to navigate the world safely.

Exactly.

That's certainly one strategy we're pursuing is a kind of Android play, if you like, as a kind of robotics, almost an OS layer, cross robotics.

But there's also some quite interesting things about vertically integrating our latest models with specific robot types and robot designs and some kind of end-to-end learning of that too.

So both are actually pretty interesting and we're pursuing both strategies.

Yeah, I think there's going to be a place for both.

Actually, I used to be of the opinion maybe five, ten years ago that we'll have form-specific robots for certain tasks.

And I think in industry, industrial robots will definitely be like that, where you can optimize the robot for the specific task, whether it's a laboratory or a production line.

You'd want quite different types of robots.

On the other hand, for general use or personal use robotics and just interacting with the ordinary world, the humanoid form factor could be pretty important because, of course, we've designed the physical world around us to be for humans.

And so steps, doorways, all the things that we've designed for ourselves, rather than changing all of those in the real world, it might be easier to design the form factor to work seamlessly with the way we've already designed the world.

So I think there's an argument to be made that the humanoid form factor could be very important for those types of tasks.

But I think there is a place also for specialized robotic forms.

Yeah, I do.

And I spend quite a lot of time on this.

And I think we're still, I feel we're still a little bit early on robotics.

I think in the next couple of years, there'll be a sort of real wow moment with robotics.

But I think the

algorithms need a bit more development.

The general purpose models that these robotics models are built on still need to be better and more reliable and better understanding the world around it.