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Demis Hassabis

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Lex Fridman Podcast
#475 โ€“ Demis Hassabis: Future of AI, Simulating Reality, Physics and Video Games

Imagine that was the prompt.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#475 โ€“ Demis Hassabis: Future of AI, Simulating Reality, Physics and Video Games

That's pretty underspecified.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#475 โ€“ Demis Hassabis: Future of AI, Simulating Reality, Physics and Video Games

And so the current systems wouldn't know, I think, what to do with that, how to narrow that down to something tractable.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#475 โ€“ Demis Hassabis: Future of AI, Simulating Reality, Physics and Video Games

And I think there's similar, like, look, just make a better version of yourself.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#475 โ€“ Demis Hassabis: Future of AI, Simulating Reality, Physics and Video Games

That's too unconstrained.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#475 โ€“ Demis Hassabis: Future of AI, Simulating Reality, Physics and Video Games

But we've done it in, as you know, with Alpha Evolve, things like faster matrix multiplication.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#475 โ€“ Demis Hassabis: Future of AI, Simulating Reality, Physics and Video Games

So when you hone it down to a very specific thing you want, it's very good at incrementally improving that.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#475 โ€“ Demis Hassabis: Future of AI, Simulating Reality, Physics and Video Games

But at the moment, these are more like incremental improvements, sort of small iterations.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#475 โ€“ Demis Hassabis: Future of AI, Simulating Reality, Physics and Video Games

Whereas if you wanted a big leap in understanding, you'd need a much larger advance.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#475 โ€“ Demis Hassabis: Future of AI, Simulating Reality, Physics and Video Games

Yes.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#475 โ€“ Demis Hassabis: Future of AI, Simulating Reality, Physics and Video Games

If it was just incremental improvements, that's how it would look.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#475 โ€“ Demis Hassabis: Future of AI, Simulating Reality, Physics and Video Games

So the question is, could it come up with a new leap like the Transformers architecture?

Lex Fridman Podcast
#475 โ€“ Demis Hassabis: Future of AI, Simulating Reality, Physics and Video Games

Could it have done that back in 2017 when we did it and Brain did it?

Lex Fridman Podcast
#475 โ€“ Demis Hassabis: Future of AI, Simulating Reality, Physics and Video Games

And it's not clear that these systems, something like AlphaVol wouldn't be able to do, make such a big leap.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#475 โ€“ Demis Hassabis: Future of AI, Simulating Reality, Physics and Video Games

So for sure, these systems are good.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#475 โ€“ Demis Hassabis: Future of AI, Simulating Reality, Physics and Video Games

We have systems, I think, that can do incremental hill climbing.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#475 โ€“ Demis Hassabis: Future of AI, Simulating Reality, Physics and Video Games

Mm-hmm.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#475 โ€“ Demis Hassabis: Future of AI, Simulating Reality, Physics and Video Games

And that's a kind of bigger question about, is that all that's needed from here?

Lex Fridman Podcast
#475 โ€“ Demis Hassabis: Future of AI, Simulating Reality, Physics and Video Games

Or do we actually need one or two more big breakthroughs?

Lex Fridman Podcast
#475 โ€“ Demis Hassabis: Future of AI, Simulating Reality, Physics and Video Games

Yeah, I don't think anyone has systems that have shown unequivocally those big leaps.