Demis Hassabis

And I think going back to games again is I think the originally why they're so great as well for kids to play things like chess is they're great little microcosm simulations of the world.

They're simulations of the world too.

They're simplified versions of some real world situation, whether it's poker or go or chess, different aspects or diplomacy, different aspects of the real world.

And it allows you to practice at them too.

And because, you know, how many...

times do you get to practice a massive decision moment in your life?

You know, what job to take, what university to go to, you know, you get maybe, I don't know, a dozen or so key decisions one has to make, and you've got to make those as best as you can.

And games is a kind of safe environment, repeatable environment where you can get better at your decision-making process.

And it maybe has this additional benefit of channeling some energies into more creative and constructive pursuits.

Yeah, and I think in martial arts, as I understand it, but also in things like chess, at least the way I took it, it's a lot to do with self-improvement.

Self-knowledge, you know, that, okay, so I did this thing.

It's not about really being the other person.

It's about maximizing your own potential.

If you do it in a healthy way, you learn to use victory and losses in a way.

Don't get carried away with victory.

and think you're just the best in the world.

And the losses keep you humble and always knowing there's always something more to learn.

There's always a bigger expert that you can mentor you.

You know, I think you learn that, I'm pretty sure, in martial arts.

And I think that's also the way that at least I was trained in chess.