Demis Hassabis

And so...

in the same way.

And it can be very hardcore and very important.

And of course you want to win, but you also need to learn how to deal with setbacks in a, in a healthy way that, and, and, and, and why are that, that feeling that you have when you lose something into a constructive thing of next time I'm going to improve this, right.

Or get better at this.

Yes.

The mastery.

Yeah.

There's nothing more satisfying in a way is like, oh, wow, this thing I couldn't do before.

Now I can.

And again, games and physical sports and mental sports, their ways of measuring, they're beautiful because you can measure that progress.

Yeah.

Yeah.

We're quite, we're quite addicted to this sort of, yeah, these numbers going up and, uh, and, and, and maybe that's why we made games like that because obviously that is something we're, we're, we're hill climbing systems ourselves.

Right.

Yeah, well, firstly, it's absolutely incredible team that we have, you know, led by Corey and Jeff Dean and and Oriol and the amazing team we have on Gemini.

Absolutely world class.

So you can't do it without the best talent.

And of course, you have you know, we have a lot of great compute as well.

But then it's the research culture we've created.