Dennis McKenna

John Parker studied everything esoteric that he could get his hands on – alchemy, chemistry, esoteric traditions, all of these things. He became a very good friend of Terrence's and then he came back to Paonia, this little podunk town that I was stuck in going to high school. But one summer, John Parker came back with Terrence to Paonia. And he took a liking to me for some reason.

John Parker studied everything esoteric that he could get his hands on – alchemy, chemistry, esoteric traditions, all of these things. He became a very good friend of Terrence's and then he came back to Paonia, this little podunk town that I was stuck in going to high school. But one summer, John Parker came back with Terrence to Paonia. And he took a liking to me for some reason.

John Parker studied everything esoteric that he could get his hands on – alchemy, chemistry, esoteric traditions, all of these things. He became a very good friend of Terrence's and then he came back to Paonia, this little podunk town that I was stuck in going to high school. But one summer, John Parker came back with Terrence to Paonia. And he took a liking to me for some reason.

He thought I was cool. And I was totally in awe of this guy because he was so weird and yet so obviously brilliant and he knew so many things. So he became a major mentor of mine. And we entered into this correspondence that lasted years in which he introduced me to all of these amazing ideas. And it's really – that was I guess a major influence in my sort of esoteric education.

He thought I was cool. And I was totally in awe of this guy because he was so weird and yet so obviously brilliant and he knew so many things. So he became a major mentor of mine. And we entered into this correspondence that lasted years in which he introduced me to all of these amazing ideas. And it's really – that was I guess a major influence in my sort of esoteric education.

He thought I was cool. And I was totally in awe of this guy because he was so weird and yet so obviously brilliant and he knew so many things. So he became a major mentor of mine. And we entered into this correspondence that lasted years in which he introduced me to all of these amazing ideas. And it's really – that was I guess a major influence in my sort of esoteric education.

And of course he knew a lot about drugs. I mean we all were wanting to learn about drugs. So DMT was there. LSD was around.

And of course he knew a lot about drugs. I mean we all were wanting to learn about drugs. So DMT was there. LSD was around.

And of course he knew a lot about drugs. I mean we all were wanting to learn about drugs. So DMT was there. LSD was around.

We – the way that you – usually what you got was very impure DMT. It was probably made in a bathtub somewhere by some crazy chemist. It was anything but pure. It didn't really matter because it's a free base. You put a little bit of it in a pipe on top of an organic substrate like maybe parsley leaves or something like that or cannabis. And then you just smoked it in a pipe.

We – the way that you – usually what you got was very impure DMT. It was probably made in a bathtub somewhere by some crazy chemist. It was anything but pure. It didn't really matter because it's a free base. You put a little bit of it in a pipe on top of an organic substrate like maybe parsley leaves or something like that or cannabis. And then you just smoked it in a pipe.

We – the way that you – usually what you got was very impure DMT. It was probably made in a bathtub somewhere by some crazy chemist. It was anything but pure. It didn't really matter because it's a free base. You put a little bit of it in a pipe on top of an organic substrate like maybe parsley leaves or something like that or cannabis. And then you just smoked it in a pipe.

three or four big hits. It's very hard on the lungs, you know, but we were smoking cannabis to where our lungs were, you know, endured to that anyway. That's how we did it, you know? And when you do it that way, vaping, is sometimes it's a lot more gentle than taking DMT by a pipe because it is so fast it just comes at you like a freight train.

three or four big hits. It's very hard on the lungs, you know, but we were smoking cannabis to where our lungs were, you know, endured to that anyway. That's how we did it, you know? And when you do it that way, vaping, is sometimes it's a lot more gentle than taking DMT by a pipe because it is so fast it just comes at you like a freight train.

three or four big hits. It's very hard on the lungs, you know, but we were smoking cannabis to where our lungs were, you know, endured to that anyway. That's how we did it, you know? And when you do it that way, vaping, is sometimes it's a lot more gentle than taking DMT by a pipe because it is so fast it just comes at you like a freight train.

It's like, you know, this just – the world dissolves in this world of hallucinations and – And apparently strange entities and all these things just opens up. But it's the same thing. It's a 20-minute outside, very, very short experience. Yeah. And we were totally impressed with this. I mean, who wouldn't be? And we were fascinated.

It's like, you know, this just – the world dissolves in this world of hallucinations and – And apparently strange entities and all these things just opens up. But it's the same thing. It's a 20-minute outside, very, very short experience. Yeah. And we were totally impressed with this. I mean, who wouldn't be? And we were fascinated.

It's like, you know, this just – the world dissolves in this world of hallucinations and – And apparently strange entities and all these things just opens up. But it's the same thing. It's a 20-minute outside, very, very short experience. Yeah. And we were totally impressed with this. I mean, who wouldn't be? And we were fascinated.

We thought LSD is interesting, but DMT is the ultimate metaphysical reality pill, we thought. Although it's not a pill, but Terrence used to call it that. It's the ultimate metaphysical reality. The problem we experienced with DMT was it was too darn short. By the time you got into it,

We thought LSD is interesting, but DMT is the ultimate metaphysical reality pill, we thought. Although it's not a pill, but Terrence used to call it that. It's the ultimate metaphysical reality. The problem we experienced with DMT was it was too darn short. By the time you got into it,