Dennis McKenna

The effects came on very quickly and that you saw the little people. They were big into seeing the little people and we saw little people on DMT. So we thought this is it. We got to go to South America. That is what led us to go to South America in 1971. to La Charrera, that was the cultural, that was the ancestral home of the Wetoto.

The effects came on very quickly and that you saw the little people. They were big into seeing the little people and we saw little people on DMT. So we thought this is it. We got to go to South America. That is what led us to go to South America in 1971. to La Charrera, that was the cultural, that was the ancestral home of the Wetoto.

So we thought, we gotta go to La Charrera, we have to find this thing, you know, cause this is it, cause it may be the ultimate mystery. I mean, you know, You got to understand, I'm 20. My brother is 24. We're both fanatics. We're batshit crazy. You know, we're going after this quest, you know, which we thought of as the secret at the time.

So we thought, we gotta go to La Charrera, we have to find this thing, you know, cause this is it, cause it may be the ultimate mystery. I mean, you know, You got to understand, I'm 20. My brother is 24. We're both fanatics. We're batshit crazy. You know, we're going after this quest, you know, which we thought of as the secret at the time.

So we thought, we gotta go to La Charrera, we have to find this thing, you know, cause this is it, cause it may be the ultimate mystery. I mean, you know, You got to understand, I'm 20. My brother is 24. We're both fanatics. We're batshit crazy. You know, we're going after this quest, you know, which we thought of as the secret at the time.

So that's what led us to go to La Charrera, you know, was in search of this drug, which was called Ukuhe. in Wetoto, and we got to La Charrera, and the whole adventure of getting there is recounted in the book. We got to La Charrera, and on the way into La Charrera, we'd encountered this anthropologist who was working with the Wetoto. We knew he was probably going to run into him.

So that's what led us to go to La Charrera, you know, was in search of this drug, which was called Ukuhe. in Wetoto, and we got to La Charrera, and the whole adventure of getting there is recounted in the book. We got to La Charrera, and on the way into La Charrera, we'd encountered this anthropologist who was working with the Wetoto. We knew he was probably going to run into him.

So that's what led us to go to La Charrera, you know, was in search of this drug, which was called Ukuhe. in Wetoto, and we got to La Charrera, and the whole adventure of getting there is recounted in the book. We got to La Charrera, and on the way into La Charrera, we'd encountered this anthropologist who was working with the Wetoto. We knew he was probably going to run into him.

His colleagues in Bogota had said, you know, Dr. Collier is out there. You'll probably see him. This was, you know, you didn't send texts to people or anything. This was 1971. So we thought, okay, we'll probably encounter Dr. Collier. Well, we did. We ran into Horatio Collier, which is a different name than in the book. I've changed his name.

His colleagues in Bogota had said, you know, Dr. Collier is out there. You'll probably see him. This was, you know, you didn't send texts to people or anything. This was 1971. So we thought, okay, we'll probably encounter Dr. Collier. Well, we did. We ran into Horatio Collier, which is a different name than in the book. I've changed his name.

His colleagues in Bogota had said, you know, Dr. Collier is out there. You'll probably see him. This was, you know, you didn't send texts to people or anything. This was 1971. So we thought, okay, we'll probably encounter Dr. Collier. Well, we did. We ran into Horatio Collier, which is a different name than in the book. I've changed his name.

But we ran into him in a village downriver from La Charrera called El Encanto, which is coincidence enough, synchronicity enough, because El Encanto means mountain. The Enchanted, you know, and we were on this whole mythic quest to find the secret. And we talked to Dr. Collier, and when we got there, you have to understand, we were very much in the hippie mode.

But we ran into him in a village downriver from La Charrera called El Encanto, which is coincidence enough, synchronicity enough, because El Encanto means mountain. The Enchanted, you know, and we were on this whole mythic quest to find the secret. And we talked to Dr. Collier, and when we got there, you have to understand, we were very much in the hippie mode.

But we ran into him in a village downriver from La Charrera called El Encanto, which is coincidence enough, synchronicity enough, because El Encanto means mountain. The Enchanted, you know, and we were on this whole mythic quest to find the secret. And we talked to Dr. Collier, and when we got there, you have to understand, we were very much in the hippie mode.

We dressed like hippies, beads, bells, everything. You know, all that. So when these people, these crazy people show up in the village, Dr. Collier is like, who the fuck are these people? You know, and what are they here for? Why are they here? And when we said, we're here for Okuhe.

We dressed like hippies, beads, bells, everything. You know, all that. So when these people, these crazy people show up in the village, Dr. Collier is like, who the fuck are these people? You know, and what are they here for? Why are they here? And when we said, we're here for Okuhe.

We dressed like hippies, beads, bells, everything. You know, all that. So when these people, these crazy people show up in the village, Dr. Collier is like, who the fuck are these people? You know, and what are they here for? Why are they here? And when we said, we're here for Okuhe.

Then he really freaked out, you know, and he's like, you can't just go in there and march in there and start asking for a coup hit. He said, you know, this is their biggest shamanic secret. I mean, they will probably kill you if you start talking about this. Well, you know, so we said, okay, doc, we understand. We'll be cool. We'll be discreet. We're not just going to, you know, ask for it.

Then he really freaked out, you know, and he's like, you can't just go in there and march in there and start asking for a coup hit. He said, you know, this is their biggest shamanic secret. I mean, they will probably kill you if you start talking about this. Well, you know, so we said, okay, doc, we understand. We'll be cool. We'll be discreet. We're not just going to, you know, ask for it.

Then he really freaked out, you know, and he's like, you can't just go in there and march in there and start asking for a coup hit. He said, you know, this is their biggest shamanic secret. I mean, they will probably kill you if you start talking about this. Well, you know, so we said, okay, doc, we understand. We'll be cool. We'll be discreet. We're not just going to, you know, ask for it.