DeRay McKesson
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If you're not going to engage in it, it's always engaging with you.
And I think that I never viewed it as that simple as something that's like, yeah, how many people constitutes a gang?
And it's like, well, I have cousins.
I have like siblings.
I have friends like that.
They go everywhere.
Like it's them and their two best friends.
And if you're telling me that that's a gang, then no.
But then we also can push back on that policy.
and just have these conversations, even if it was just in the house.
You know what I'm saying?
That is how people could get at least motivated to go and make policy change.
You know what I mean?
Yeah, I think it's...
I think there's like a sense, people want it to be sensational in that sense.
Like everything has to be the guy throwing the tear gas bag.
And for the most part, it's just like people.
You know what I mean?