DeRay McKesson

He was like, what can I do?

That was the mentality from what I'm hearing.

And a lot of people seem like helpless to start.

And what would be some like entry-level ways that you think somebody could get like just the everyday person into organizing, into activism?

Three is something they decided on.

Like, we can decide on a different number, right?

Yeah.

Man, you know, I don't think I looked at it as simple as that, though.

I was talking about friends and shit.

The most boring shit on TV was C-SPAN.

This is where people's information about politics comes from.

Every time I think about politics as a child, I'm thinking about C-SPAN.

All these white people sitting in this boring ass room and talking about bullshit.

It's like, I don't want to see that.

I want excitement.

I need stimulation.

Now that politics has become overly stimulating, it's like...

It's the same effect.

It's the extremes of boring versus overstimulation where people just kind of like, I don't want anything to do with this at all.

And now we're in a position where everything is politicized and you can't escape it.