DeRay McKesson

I don't think so.

No, that makes sense though.

And they get it because, I mean, I know that shit too.

I like, I know if, especially if we was in like, if anybody was finna get in a fight, it's going to take two cars to get us there.

You know what I mean?

Especially we had to travel.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Well, the thing is, is if I'm thinking about it from that perspective, one black person is enough to make white people nervous.

So then three is like, holy shit.

what are these three niggas doing you know what i'm saying so i i think um yeah yeah that was another thing that i wanted to talk to you about i'm glad you brought that up um to go from education into activism and where's the decision where how do you make the decision like okay i'm gonna pivot and do this full time how do you make that decision i i have a follow-up question after this

Right.

Yeah.

Which leads me into, like, how...

What's the entry, like, what's the, I guess, ease of access, so to speak?

How entry-level is this for, like, the everyday person that feels, like, kind of hopeless to things like policy or organization?

I think there's a lot of people online who talk about, we need to organize, we need to do this, but, like, this is a career for you at this point.

This is something you've been doing, like I said, 10-plus years.

And you didn't come into this questioning, like,

why can't I do it?