Derek Moneyberg

It's like the last enclave of people that are very sincere, hardworking.

They're exactly how they say they are, you know?

Like Lyoto Machida or a guy like Royce Gracie.

It's exactly who he, who you think he is.

I agree with that.

And it's also, it's an individual sport, you know, if you're on a team where there's, you know, five people on the basketball court or 13 people in football or whatever it is, well, then you can say, oh, you know, that guy should have done something different.

No, it's you and one other person in a cage.

It's you and one other person.

And it's, you know, it's pretty clear what your skills are, you know.

Some people don't.

They still want to play coach or something, but.

Or the ref.

Yeah, true, true.

And yet that comment about the ref, just briefly, Liotto tell me a story like this.

Liotto Machida is one of the best strikers ever.

Amazing guy.

Former UFC champion, multi-time, 205 pound division.

And Liotta says when he's a child, he started training really at birth, but he started official training when he was four.

Wow.

And he said that he lost a tournament.