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Derek Moneyberg: Tough Guy for Clicks? Strickland vs. Moneyberg | DSH #1556

06 Oct 2025

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Chapter 1: What happened during the hotel lobby encounter between Derek Moneyberg and Sean Strickland?

0.031 - 17.532 Derek Moneyberg

Sean Strickland confronted Derek Moneyberg. Like, say, I'm not challenging you to a fight, but we can go roll around tonight. We kind of head down and look, hey, you don't want to make eye contact. And then he takes the phone out when we're by the elevator. And then he totally, totally changes his persona. And now he's a tough guy on camera. I don't think you could tap me in five minutes.

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18.413 - 22.157 Derek Moneyberg

You want to say all this tough guy shit? Like, I think he just wants to talk shit for clicks and views.

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26.744 - 33.095 Sean Kelly

Okay, guys, Derek Moneyberg back on the show. It's been almost two years since his last episode, I believe, and he's been doing a lot.

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Chapter 2: Why does Derek Moneyberg believe Sean Strickland's tough guy persona is just for clicks?

33.115 - 33.936 Sean Kelly

So thanks for coming on, man.

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34.136 - 35.158 Derek Moneyberg

Hey, thanks for inviting me back.

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35.178 - 41.749 Sean Kelly

Yeah, you've been all over the news. All the biggest podcasts are talking about you. Joe Rogan included in that, right? Must be pretty crazy times for you.

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42.353 - 60.133 Derek Moneyberg

Um, I'm just a business nerd that does some MMA training, man. And, uh, you know, I tried to accelerate that the way you tried to accelerate everything else in life. And, um, yeah, but the, you know, that's when, uh, it's a defense to the jujitsu community that I got my black belt in three years and seven months.

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61.034 - 76.005 Derek Moneyberg

And so, you know, many of the top fighters in the world, the people that know me and trained with me said amazing things, um, And then of course, you know, people around them, you know, of course they ask is like, you know, Hey, you, you know, that guy, is that legit? And they'd be like, Oh yeah. So then, then they're understood. Um,

76.407 - 83.297 Derek Moneyberg

But, you know, for like, for people that don't train much or people that took, you know, 12, 15 years to get their belt and they're, they're a little offended by that.

Chapter 3: What is the controversy surrounding Derek Moneyberg's black belt?

83.498 - 83.738 Sean Strickland

Yeah.

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83.758 - 94.374 Derek Moneyberg

Like I put in the same number of hours. I just did it in a more compressed amount of time with, you know, some of the, many of the top coaches in the world. So I don't even think it should be so controversial, but yeah, we do.

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94.655 - 100.103 Sean Kelly

You said a little offended. I'd say some people got very offended based off what I was seeing on social media. It was very interesting.

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100.673 - 127.44 Derek Moneyberg

yeah i guess um you know gordon ryan made the point that on the rogan show about that that like the thing that they're most trusty about is that you know that i did use that something as a of a marketing campaign to be like you know yeah i get my belt a lot quicker than you because i'm smarter than you i mean might as well monetize it we're just dumb and harder working you could do the same thing yeah which i believe and i stand by that i mean look at it you're top one percent in multiple fields it's not just fighting right business stocks to probably name a few more

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127.808 - 141.372 Derek Moneyberg

Well, I mean, objectively, and it's not a, it's not even a cocky thing. It's just objectively true of like, if we go to the gym and lift weights, I'm stronger than, you know, more than 99% of the people in the gym. If we go, you know, grapple or whatnot, like, yeah.

141.392 - 148.945 Derek Moneyberg

Uh, even with the, all the UFC guys, a lot of the UFC guys I've trained with and, and the other ones, I'm not calling them out or challenging them, but I'm like, yeah, I'll be happy to train with you.

149.126 - 149.306 Sean Kelly

Yeah.

149.586 - 150.308 Derek Moneyberg

Like respectfully.

Chapter 4: How does Derek Moneyberg define respect in the MMA community?

150.448 - 151.69 Sean Kelly

And you can hold your own.

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151.67 - 161.162 Derek Moneyberg

I do good with the UFC guys with the, you know, top level grapplers that are specialists in grappling. You know, if I go to Gordon Ryan's gym, John Danaher's gym, uh, it's called Kingsway.

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Chapter 5: What lessons on discipline and business does Derek Moneyberg share?

161.182 - 172.816 Derek Moneyberg

It's down in Austin, Texas. Every, everybody there is just elite. Yeah. So, you know, yeah, for sure. Yeah. There's some purple belts there that are better than I am because they're like the best grapplers in the world, the best school in the world. So it's totally true.

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173.457 - 179.044 Sean Kelly

Okay. So is that how it works with the belt? So like, depending on the city you're in, like a black belt doesn't hold the same value.

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179.699 - 187.529 Derek Moneyberg

Well, if you're, you know, if you're, um, competing at ADCC is like, that's like the Olympics of grappling. They hold that event every two years here in Vegas.

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Chapter 6: How does Derek Moneyberg handle criticism and hate online?

187.549 - 200.967 Derek Moneyberg

Yeah. Um, well, you know, they have the world championships and, you know, there's all sorts of big tournaments, but ADCC is the biggest and best. Okay. And, you know, there's a purple belt guy down there. Um, they call him big day on a six foot 70s, three 20 ish.

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Chapter 7: What strategies does Derek Moneyberg utilize for successful investing?

201.508 - 219.329 Derek Moneyberg

He's a purple belt, but he'd kill almost every black belt, you know, any normal black belt. But, you know, he has number three purple belt in the world at ADCC, you know? So that guy's better than most black belts. So, you know, you can call it sandbagging if you want to, that they, they hold the belts back. Okay. You know, yeah, the guy would beat most black belts, including me.

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219.349 - 225.355 Sean Kelly

Makes sense if the, yeah, some of the top purple belt guys are better than a majority or like the bottom half of the black belts, right?

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225.375 - 243.534 Derek Moneyberg

No, that's, that's totally true, you know? So am I going to go win ADCC or the big tournaments in the world? No, I'm a business guy that did that as a hobby. But to your point of like, you know, anything that I did in life, it doesn't mean I'm great at everything. I'm not great at everything. But anything that I focused on, I'm very physically strong.

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244.155 - 263.517 Derek Moneyberg

I went to the best business school in the world. At the time that I went to my MBA program, there's 416 programs in the country. I went to the number one ranked school, University of Chicago, School of Business. Shout out to Booth. Um, yeah, I did well in my business recently. I got, you know, $50 million revenue recognition. I did well in that business.

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Chapter 8: How does Derek Moneyberg view the future of nuclear energy investments?

263.537 - 269.144 Derek Moneyberg

I helped with other businesses before that. I did good at everything. I did good at stock investing. I did good at real estate investing.

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269.404 - 269.584 Sean Kelly

Yeah.

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269.945 - 285.328 Derek Moneyberg

I'm no good at tennis. I'm no good at golf. You don't want me to be your heart surgeon. You probably die. So there's a lot of things I'm no good at, but the things that I focused on, I did very well. And I kind of have that sort of an obsessive personality that I'm going to do something extremely well or probably I'll do something else, you know? Right. I only kind of do things part way.

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285.368 - 307.683 Derek Moneyberg

So, you know, elaborating on the process that went into that belt, it's like I spent $4 million on gyms. Wow. Which was mostly real estate expenses, okay, but then the renovations. So there's four properties that got renovated to be like an MMA gym and a weightlifting gym. And then I spent another few million dollars. So you bought your belt. You bought your belt. You paid your coaches. No shit.

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307.703 - 327.986 Derek Moneyberg

I paid my coaches. No shit. I paid. I also paid my tuition at my university. I paid tuition at my university too, guys. My professors got paid. They got paid too, you know. Everybody that I, you know who else gets paid? My weight training coach. When I ask him to come train with me, who's, you know, amazing guy, was on the Olympia stage many times, I pay him too. Yeah.

328.427 - 334.574 Derek Moneyberg

I also pay my cell phone bill. I pay for a lot of things. So that doesn't mean that you didn't do the work. Right.

334.594 - 338.479 Sean Kelly

It doesn't mean that you didn't do the work. People had an issue with you paying coaches.

338.459 - 339.34 Derek Moneyberg

Oh, man, it's absurd.

339.741 - 340.642 Sean Kelly

I don't understand that, though.

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