Derek Mooney

But I would have huge... Actually, strange enough, I was looking at and discovered that my father had a brother that we weren't previously aware of and that obviously died when he was a month old or something like that.

But anyway, that's just beside the point.

But in terms of this urban rural divide, that seemed to be kind of a moving away kind of from the late 90s into the early noughties.

And now it's backward of vengeance because you're talking about perhaps of the global crash.

I think a lot of our large elements, we didn't learn the lessons of the decade leading up to that.

And we haven't heeded those lessons and all those that we seem to be now going back to where we were maybe 20 something years ago.

And I just I think there is no situation so bad that Leo Radcliffe can't come in and make it worse.

And he certainly has managed to do that here, if not for the general debate and the general discussion, certainly for the Fine Gael candidate in Galway West, who must be thanking him dearly for this one.

I mean, it is just it's just extraordinary that sometimes sometimes former leaders do need to disappear.

No, the amazing thing is what, in Ireland, the mitigation measures are 750 for a population of 6 million.

In Germany, they're 1.7 billion for a population of 84 million people.

So in terms of what we've already done, that's barely sustainable.

So what do you need to do for the next stage?

But I think the issue was, and maybe going back to what Aisling said, which is

that the public representatives, a lot of TDs and others, particularly government TDs, but not exclusively, were flagging this in late March.

We're saying, hang on a second, the £250 million package excludes the agri-sector.

And the government then said after that it would monitor the situation.

That's not responsive.

When the protest hit Dublin on Tuesday, the meetings still weren't taking place until Friday.

So the government reaction didn't appear to be keeping pace with what was happening.