Derek Mooney

It was a lot more real.

And you didn't have as many people on the margins of it looking to capitalize on it or to take over.

Difficulty is when you put politics onto the streets, you have a responsibility for what happens when you bring politics out on the streets.

And it was quite clear that a lot of the organizers just wanted to shun that responsibility.

They didn't take ownership of it.

And as far as I can make, just in terms of looking at my own hinterland of people I would know from through WhatsApp and people I would know from my previous political involvement, there seemed to be a lot more women involved there in terms of that, but just they weren't the ones getting their play.

No, I think there's a heave coming this week, next week.

Last Friday, I thought there might be because I do think there are 12 people to sign a motion of no confidence.

And that is something that didn't exist previously.

For example, in the aftermath of the Jim Gavin.

Well, strictly speaking, they don't because the rules state if you need just to... So there are two actions there, which is get rid of the current leader and have a competition for the follower.

What's happened is that a lot of TDs do now believe, OK, we need to have...

one person.

I actually think that's a bad situation.

I think the general consensus amongst TDs is that I can make out, and I would talk to a lot of Fianna Fáil TDs, though I haven't been a member myself for several years, is that nobody wants to see Micheál Martin lead them into the next election.

So now you start to have to work backwards.

So should the next leader have served as Taoiseach before the next election?

And if you do that, then Micheál Martin has to go before the end of the year.

Yeah, no, I think it was on the Thursday a member of the Cabinet said to me that they were being inundated with messages from constituents saying like, well, when are we going to see the army on the streets?

And I'm saying, well, no, we're not going to see the army on the streets.