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I think a lot of those have been disproven, like tribulus, diasporic acid, fenugreek.

One that is notable that might do something is shilajit.

If you get a high quality shilajit, it may provide enough.

Like the actual capacity of your organ to respond to hormones is partly conditional on its ability to tolerate stress and reactive oxygen species locally too.

So if you have shilajit,

more than you can deal with and you introduce a potent antioxidant to the equation, you may be able to like attenuate and neutralize the kind of like decrement to performance and kind of like net out more local hormone yield.

So Shilajit seems to be impactful on intratesticular antioxidant activity, but I wouldn't, it's another one that requires like careful sourcing.

And it's also one that's like,

more speculative and indirect because like there are probably better ways to manage your oxidant like your antioxidant profile i would think so so your top four supplements for testosterone would be

Zinc, magnesium, vitamin D, not in order, just the top three, I would say.

And then I guess for impact, I would probably say like Tonkat Ali, but probably Boron would be my safer next choice just for like safety profile.

Yeah, ashwagandha and just be like cognizant of how it works because you may be able to get the benefit at a lower dose.

You may be able to cycle it depending on how you respond to it, like similar to you with caffeine.

Like there's no hard and fast rules on all this stuff.

Like there are studies you could adhere to like the protocols designed, but they're ultimately just designed by, you know, scientists who thought this was the way to do it.

And like for you and your individual biochemistry, it may not be the ideal way.

Because once you get that blood test, you're going to be like, fuck, I shouldn't have taken ashwagandha because now I have no idea what this means.

If you do assess your cortisol stress response, I would highly recommend a Dutch test over a blood test.

Why is that?

salivary cortisol levels are far more indicative of what's happening from a stress response standpoint than your like transient serum cortisol levels will be.