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I'm sure I can't even remember it all.

I'd have to go look at our own pre-designed panels to tell you I probably should have done that at the beginning of the thing rather than rambling nonsensically.

Yeah, so the reference range, I believe it's going to depend on the lab, of course, but in general, I believe LabCorp is 15 to 70 nanograms per deciliter, so like the rough equivalent of, you know, a bit less than maybe like one-tenth that of men.

And for them, defining low T gets a bit more difficult because you're so close to like zero, essentially, that...

One, if you're not doing sensitive enough testing, like you're probably not going to be accurate.

So that's where it's super critical that you have these levels assessed accurately through the LCMS methodology that I mentioned.

But also, like, are they doing anything that is extra suppressive on top of all the stuff men already have to consider, like contraceptives?

Because it's like you could be artificially inducing a state of low T.

that you otherwise wouldn't have.

And then maybe like self-diagnosing, thinking that you have it, like what you technically do maybe on paper, but it's like self-mediated through something that you were also prescribed that's like a hormone too.

So that gets a bit tough, but in general, to simplify, like a lot of the stuff we just mentioned,

is like directly analogous to like what women should look to as well like it's the same micronutrients it's the same just a different scale and proportion it's the same eating enough calories and not starving yourself and leading to you know amenorrhea it's uh making sure you have like a normal you know menstrual period all this stuff um

Um, and then yeah, like, you know, the, the oral contraceptives is significant and worth noting if you're on that, like you almost certainly are artificially suppressing yourself into like, the equivalent of hypo territory for women.

So if you're on it, like I would probably check where you stand and, you know, decide if that's the medium you want to continue moving forward.

And for some women, it works like it's not to say that that's something you shouldn't be on at all.

Some women like that.

Some women have like hyper androgen leaning bodies.

you know phenotypes and they might actually maybe benefit from some suppression it kind of depends like some women need to use like anti androgens to maintain like a more neutral profile to not get like hirsutism and whatnot which is like like hair growth that would be reflective of like masculine characteristics

Um, so yeah, like in general, I'd be looking to that, um, basic symptom symptoms and the biomarkers while there is a reference range of 15 to 70.

I don't think you're ever going to have a doctor who's not part of like, I don't know, like the more progressive kind of like, um,