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Derek Thompson

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
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The Bulwark Podcast
Derek Thompson: Ruling by Emergency

doesn't appear in this law.

The Bulwark Podcast
Derek Thompson: Ruling by Emergency

This law is clearly not intended for these purposes.

The Bulwark Podcast
Derek Thompson: Ruling by Emergency

And so this is not legal.

The Bulwark Podcast
Derek Thompson: Ruling by Emergency

And now we're going to, I think, a 1974 law passed after a Richard Nixon initiative that's being used to justify the next round of tariffs.

The Bulwark Podcast
Derek Thompson: Ruling by Emergency

Never before used.

The Bulwark Podcast
Derek Thompson: Ruling by Emergency

Who knew it was there?

The Bulwark Podcast
Derek Thompson: Ruling by Emergency

Well, the Trump folks did.

The Bulwark Podcast
Derek Thompson: Ruling by Emergency

It seems like over and over again, the administration is almost like teaching us a lesson

The Bulwark Podcast
Derek Thompson: Ruling by Emergency

in the degree to which American law justifies authoritarianism if you dig deep enough.

The Bulwark Podcast
Derek Thompson: Ruling by Emergency

And so it's like this search function I said, Control-F monarchy, like go through the entire US statute and do a Control-F for anything that gives the executive branch emergency power to do whatever it wants in domestic and foreign policy.

The Bulwark Podcast
Derek Thompson: Ruling by Emergency

And they're using this over and over again.

The Bulwark Podcast
Derek Thompson: Ruling by Emergency

And it just disturbs me as a moral matter, but also interests me to the degree to which we can predict what the Trump administration is going to do next.

The Bulwark Podcast
Derek Thompson: Ruling by Emergency

Like it almost makes maybe like a smarter, like maybe legal reporter want to use like an advanced version of ChatGPT or Claude to essentially like have a swarm of agents look through the law and predict what,

The Bulwark Podcast
Derek Thompson: Ruling by Emergency

Where are the examples of latent authoritarianism hiding in the U.S.

The Bulwark Podcast
Derek Thompson: Ruling by Emergency

legal code that the Trump might use in the next two and a half years to justify some completely cockamamie scheme that we couldn't currently imagine, that that might be a way to almost run ahead of the administration and predict what they're going to do next?

The Bulwark Podcast
Derek Thompson: Ruling by Emergency

Right.

The Bulwark Podcast
Derek Thompson: Ruling by Emergency

I mean, and you set this question up with an example that I didn't even give in my answer, which is that Pete Hegseth, after contract negotiations broke down with the AI company Anthropic, labeled Anthropic a supply chain risk under Section 3252, which is a section that has typically only been applied โ€“

The Bulwark Podcast
Derek Thompson: Ruling by Emergency

to foreign companies that are essentially saboteurs, like Huawei, the Chinese company that we worried had a backdoor to the Chinese government.

The Bulwark Podcast
Derek Thompson: Ruling by Emergency

We currently, because of our use of Section 3252 on Anthropic, are treating them like an enemy of the state, treating them worse than many Chinese AI companies that we know have a backdoor to the military or the intelligence of the CCP.

The Bulwark Podcast
Derek Thompson: Ruling by Emergency

So here again, we have like, who would have thought