Derek Thompson
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You could say theoretically, oh, well, they're just trying to target the bad projects that would be done by only like ho-hum scientists, the good projects we're going to hold on to. But don't you think there's a lot of good scientists at say Harvard, Columbia, Cornell, Northwestern?
Well, we're also attacking those schools directly and withholding in some cases all of our grant spending from those schools, forcing hundreds of millions of dollars in cuts from our most advanced research centers.
Well, we're also attacking those schools directly and withholding in some cases all of our grant spending from those schools, forcing hundreds of millions of dollars in cuts from our most advanced research centers.
Well, we're also attacking those schools directly and withholding in some cases all of our grant spending from those schools, forcing hundreds of millions of dollars in cuts from our most advanced research centers.
I mean, my big take here is if in a parallel universe, we lost a war to China in January 2025, and we had a sign like an article of surrender akin to the Treaty of Versailles in 1919, like China would forever force us to spend 50% less on science. China would force us to become an enemy of all of our trading partners. China might force us to pay more for manufacturing imports.
I mean, my big take here is if in a parallel universe, we lost a war to China in January 2025, and we had a sign like an article of surrender akin to the Treaty of Versailles in 1919, like China would forever force us to spend 50% less on science. China would force us to become an enemy of all of our trading partners. China might force us to pay more for manufacturing imports.
I mean, my big take here is if in a parallel universe, we lost a war to China in January 2025, and we had a sign like an article of surrender akin to the Treaty of Versailles in 1919, like China would forever force us to spend 50% less on science. China would force us to become an enemy of all of our trading partners. China might force us to pay more for manufacturing imports.
China would force us to do all these things that we're choosing to do for ourselves. So we're essentially signing our own article of surrender against China, against the world, and frankly, against ourselves, because at the end of the day, it kind of doesn't matter who comes up with the next breakthrough drug in cancer. If Americans can use it, they benefit from it.
China would force us to do all these things that we're choosing to do for ourselves. So we're essentially signing our own article of surrender against China, against the world, and frankly, against ourselves, because at the end of the day, it kind of doesn't matter who comes up with the next breakthrough drug in cancer. If Americans can use it, they benefit from it.
China would force us to do all these things that we're choosing to do for ourselves. So we're essentially signing our own article of surrender against China, against the world, and frankly, against ourselves, because at the end of the day, it kind of doesn't matter who comes up with the next breakthrough drug in cancer. If Americans can use it, they benefit from it.
But if you cut cancer research by 50%, you're taking away half your bets. on the biggest breakthrough in cancer. So I think this is truly one of the most fundamentally inexplicable policies we're seeing today with a gauntlet of inexplicable policies. I think it just goes to show the sadness, the depressing fact that if you make hating your opposition
But if you cut cancer research by 50%, you're taking away half your bets. on the biggest breakthrough in cancer. So I think this is truly one of the most fundamentally inexplicable policies we're seeing today with a gauntlet of inexplicable policies. I think it just goes to show the sadness, the depressing fact that if you make hating your opposition
But if you cut cancer research by 50%, you're taking away half your bets. on the biggest breakthrough in cancer. So I think this is truly one of the most fundamentally inexplicable policies we're seeing today with a gauntlet of inexplicable policies. I think it just goes to show the sadness, the depressing fact that if you make hating your opposition
the core of your political identity as hating libs and progressives is so clearly the core of mega-conservatism, you're going to cut off your nose to spite your face. And the NIH is just an unbelievably important and cherished institution. And we're essentially destroying it for the purpose of owning the libs. That makes absolutely no sense to me. And it's a crisis.
the core of your political identity as hating libs and progressives is so clearly the core of mega-conservatism, you're going to cut off your nose to spite your face. And the NIH is just an unbelievably important and cherished institution. And we're essentially destroying it for the purpose of owning the libs. That makes absolutely no sense to me. And it's a crisis.
the core of your political identity as hating libs and progressives is so clearly the core of mega-conservatism, you're going to cut off your nose to spite your face. And the NIH is just an unbelievably important and cherished institution. And we're essentially destroying it for the purpose of owning the libs. That makes absolutely no sense to me. And it's a crisis.
And I think it could unfortunately turn out to be a tragedy because the cost is not just to projects that are going on right now. If you cut NIH by 50%, you're interrupting the NIH-funded careers of tens of thousands of scientists who could be the Nobel Prize-winning geniuses of the 2030s. We just won't know if we don't invest in their education today.
And I think it could unfortunately turn out to be a tragedy because the cost is not just to projects that are going on right now. If you cut NIH by 50%, you're interrupting the NIH-funded careers of tens of thousands of scientists who could be the Nobel Prize-winning geniuses of the 2030s. We just won't know if we don't invest in their education today.
And I think it could unfortunately turn out to be a tragedy because the cost is not just to projects that are going on right now. If you cut NIH by 50%, you're interrupting the NIH-funded careers of tens of thousands of scientists who could be the Nobel Prize-winning geniuses of the 2030s. We just won't know if we don't invest in their education today.
Yeah, yeah, great question. You know, to me... The story that really shows not only the cruelty but also the ineptitude of these cuts is that in mid-April, it was reported by Science Journal and the New York Times that the NIH was going to cut by some extraordinary number, 70% to 80%, the longest and oldest longitudinal study of women's health. I believe it's called the Women's Health Initiative.