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Derek Thompson

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Plain English BEST OF: This Is How the AI Bubble Could Burst

Meta is exposed.

Plain English with Derek Thompson
Plain English BEST OF: This Is How the AI Bubble Could Burst

The private equity firms, maybe more importantly, are exposed.

Plain English with Derek Thompson
Plain English BEST OF: This Is How the AI Bubble Could Burst

Maybe some of these REITs are exposed.

Plain English with Derek Thompson
Plain English BEST OF: This Is How the AI Bubble Could Burst

And that means the limited partners, the LPs, whoever's putting the money into those private equity firms, they're exposed as well.

Plain English with Derek Thompson
Plain English BEST OF: This Is How the AI Bubble Could Burst

So the same way that, like, if you were going back to 2006, 2007, we were thinking, if this whole house of cards comes down, who's hurt?

Plain English with Derek Thompson
Plain English BEST OF: This Is How the AI Bubble Could Burst

You could say, oh, it's Bear Stearns.

Plain English with Derek Thompson
Plain English BEST OF: This Is How the AI Bubble Could Burst

Oh, it's AIG.

Plain English with Derek Thompson
Plain English BEST OF: This Is How the AI Bubble Could Burst

Like...

Plain English with Derek Thompson
Plain English BEST OF: This Is How the AI Bubble Could Burst

Give me a sense of the kind of companies that would be most exposed if we saw a significant slowdown in the AI CapEx world or some kind of significant pullback here.

Plain English with Derek Thompson
Plain English BEST OF: This Is How the AI Bubble Could Burst

And putting this all together, right, let's say you're a typical, you're an older investor, you're a conservative investor, you've got some money in REITs, you think this is just sort of your meat and potatoes investment vehicle.

Plain English with Derek Thompson
Plain English BEST OF: This Is How the AI Bubble Could Burst

And now you said between 10 and 20% of these REITs are directly or indirectly tied to data centers.

Plain English with Derek Thompson
Plain English BEST OF: This Is How the AI Bubble Could Burst

Assets under management.

Plain English with Derek Thompson
Plain English BEST OF: This Is How the AI Bubble Could Burst

Okay, so you're right.

Plain English with Derek Thompson
Plain English BEST OF: This Is How the AI Bubble Could Burst

So 10 to 20% of these REITs, assets under management, is in data centers.

Plain English with Derek Thompson
Plain English BEST OF: This Is How the AI Bubble Could Burst

You told me 25 minutes ago or whatever that data center costs are like 70% GPUs, which means in effect that these REITs are basically just like

Plain English with Derek Thompson
Plain English BEST OF: This Is How the AI Bubble Could Burst

significantly in nvidia right like i mean these grandparents who like don't even know that they're like nvidia investors are like significant investors in nvidia which means as nvidia goes so do their investment portfolios i mean that also seems like a significant part of this which is that like you know you've got this enormous us economy 35 trillion dollars and it's like

Plain English with Derek Thompson
Plain English BEST OF: This Is How the AI Bubble Could Burst

a significant amount of its growth on a quarter-to-quarter basis, whether it's equities or GDP, like balances on the narrow read of like, how's Nvidia doing?

Plain English with Derek Thompson
Plain English BEST OF: This Is How the AI Bubble Could Burst

It really, it just seems like an enormous share of economic growth right now is like basically, how are we doing with chip sales?

Plain English with Derek Thompson
Plain English BEST OF: This Is How the AI Bubble Could Burst

So going further along this particular train of thought, what does a bubble look like to you?

Plain English with Derek Thompson
Plain English BEST OF: This Is How the AI Bubble Could Burst

What are the news headlines?