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Derek Thompson

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Plain English with Derek Thompson
Everybody Thinks AI Is a Bubble. What If They’re Wrong?

NVIDIA is making high quality chips right now that in two, three years will not be the frontier.

Plain English with Derek Thompson
Everybody Thinks AI Is a Bubble. What If They’re Wrong?

And so these companies, if they want the best kind of pre-training, will have to buy a new set of chips.

Plain English with Derek Thompson
Everybody Thinks AI Is a Bubble. What If They’re Wrong?

I genuinely don't know how this is going to work.

Plain English with Derek Thompson
Everybody Thinks AI Is a Bubble. What If They’re Wrong?

If these companies have to spend...

Plain English with Derek Thompson
Everybody Thinks AI Is a Bubble. What If They’re Wrong?

collectively half a trillion dollars every three years on the best GPUs, how are they ever going to make back this money?

Plain English with Derek Thompson
Everybody Thinks AI Is a Bubble. What If They’re Wrong?

You mentioned revenues, and I think we should jump right there.

Plain English with Derek Thompson
Everybody Thinks AI Is a Bubble. What If They’re Wrong?

Your second gauge is what you call industry strain.

Plain English with Derek Thompson
Everybody Thinks AI Is a Bubble. What If They’re Wrong?

And that's basically an answer to the question, are industry revenues commensurate with capital expenditures, right?

Plain English with Derek Thompson
Everybody Thinks AI Is a Bubble. What If They’re Wrong?

Are these companies making back the money that they are spending on the infrastructure to build AI?

Plain English with Derek Thompson
Everybody Thinks AI Is a Bubble. What If They’re Wrong?

And this is where I'm particularly interested in your case, that this isn't bubblicious, right?

Plain English with Derek Thompson
Everybody Thinks AI Is a Bubble. What If They’re Wrong?

By your own calculation,

Plain English with Derek Thompson
Everybody Thinks AI Is a Bubble. What If They’re Wrong?

Data center capex is roughly $370, $400 billion.

Plain English with Derek Thompson
Everybody Thinks AI Is a Bubble. What If They’re Wrong?

AI revenue, as you've calculated, is closer to $60 billion.

Plain English with Derek Thompson
Everybody Thinks AI Is a Bubble. What If They’re Wrong?

That's a 6x gap.

Plain English with Derek Thompson
Everybody Thinks AI Is a Bubble. What If They’re Wrong?

That is an enormous gap.

Plain English with Derek Thompson
Everybody Thinks AI Is a Bubble. What If They’re Wrong?

How is that not worrisome?

Plain English with Derek Thompson
Everybody Thinks AI Is a Bubble. What If They’re Wrong?

And we're going to get to revenue growth in just a second because the question that's being screamed here is, okay, well, it doesn't matter if revenues are low right now.

Plain English with Derek Thompson
Everybody Thinks AI Is a Bubble. What If They’re Wrong?

If they're going to grow by 300% every year, eventually you're going to catch up.

Plain English with Derek Thompson
Everybody Thinks AI Is a Bubble. What If They’re Wrong?

But I do just want to make sure that we pin this one point because in your entire...

Plain English with Derek Thompson
Everybody Thinks AI Is a Bubble. What If They’re Wrong?

Higher analysis, it seems to me, this is the place where you think AI is most susceptible to, most vulnerable to accusations of being a bubble.