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Derek Thompson

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9152 total appearances

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The Ezra Klein Show
What We Got Right — and Wrong — in ‘Abundance’

It is, however, and I do mean this like on a separate plane, an opportunity for people who think of themselves as abundance liberals to refocus this question around how do we solve these problems on the supply side?

The Ezra Klein Show
What We Got Right — and Wrong — in ‘Abundance’

How do we make it easier to build the housing that currently is not being built?

The Ezra Klein Show
What We Got Right — and Wrong — in ‘Abundance’

How do we make it easier to build the transformers that currently aren't not only being built, but are also in many cases being tariffed?

The Ezra Klein Show
What We Got Right — and Wrong — in ‘Abundance’

So I think Trump is a disaster, but Trump's disaster is often instructive to the opposing party.

The Ezra Klein Show
What We Got Right — and Wrong — in ‘Abundance’

So this I do think is an opportunity for someone to run on the idea that like, we know that like economics works in many of these industries.

The Ezra Klein Show
What We Got Right — and Wrong — in ‘Abundance’

We know supply and demand works.

The Ezra Klein Show
What We Got Right — and Wrong — in ‘Abundance’

There are supply side solutions to many of these problems.

The Ezra Klein Show
What We Got Right — and Wrong — in ‘Abundance’

And if we implement them in a way that the Trump administration has not,

The Ezra Klein Show
What We Got Right — and Wrong — in ‘Abundance’

we can begin to fix some of these problems.

The Ezra Klein Show
What We Got Right — and Wrong — in ‘Abundance’

I might disagree with the way you're splitting out the economic case and the vision case.

The Ezra Klein Show
What We Got Right — and Wrong — in ‘Abundance’

There's a way in which I think the last few months in particular have demonstrated that the case for clean electricity is also the case for cheap energy in the long run.

The Ezra Klein Show
What We Got Right — and Wrong — in ‘Abundance’

We just saw is the degree to which a totalitarian theocratic regime can use drone weaponry to control an artery of gas and oil.

The Ezra Klein Show
What We Got Right — and Wrong — in ‘Abundance’

in a way that can raise the cost of fossil fuels for the entire world.

The Ezra Klein Show
What We Got Right — and Wrong — in ‘Abundance’

One way to not rely on that one artery is to build more energy at home, to insource your energy.

The Ezra Klein Show
What We Got Right — and Wrong — in ‘Abundance’

What are some ways to do that?

The Ezra Klein Show
What We Got Right — and Wrong — in ‘Abundance’

is to take advantage of an unbelievable cost revolution in solar and storage, not to mention I would like wind, geothermal, and nuclear, but those are alternative for now, to use the cost revolution in solar and storage to build more in this country such that we have not only

The Ezra Klein Show
What We Got Right — and Wrong — in ‘Abundance’

clean electricity, but also clean electricity that isn't going to ride the sort of insurance spikes of a world in which there's war on the seas that every few months drives up the cost of hydrocarbons that are put on ships.

The Ezra Klein Show
What We Got Right — and Wrong — in ‘Abundance’

Doge was a total disaster.

The Ezra Klein Show
What We Got Right — and Wrong — in ‘Abundance’

I mean, there's a way in which I think some people say, oh, you know, what we'll just do is we'll build Doge, but better.

The Ezra Klein Show
What We Got Right — and Wrong — in ‘Abundance’

That's what begs the question.