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Derek Thompson

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Plain English with Derek Thompson
Everybody Thinks AI Is a Bubble. What If They’re Wrong?

And he said, quote, it was the most absurd pitch meeting.

Plain English with Derek Thompson
Everybody Thinks AI Is a Bubble. What If They’re Wrong?

She was like, so we're doing an AI company with the best AI people, but we can't answer any questions, end quote.

Plain English with Derek Thompson
Everybody Thinks AI Is a Bubble. What If They’re Wrong?

And so when I look at this, I have to admit, this does somewhat remind me of a dot-com company that has vast promises for reshaping some aspect of retail, but very little underlying business that people can see.

Plain English with Derek Thompson
Everybody Thinks AI Is a Bubble. What If They’re Wrong?

Or maybe like some housing development that's built in the excerpts of God knows what, Phoenix,

Plain English with Derek Thompson
Everybody Thinks AI Is a Bubble. What If They’re Wrong?

It's beautiful and perfectly financed, at least on the outside, and yet no one is moving into the houses.

Plain English with Derek Thompson
Everybody Thinks AI Is a Bubble. What If They’re Wrong?

So to what extent do stories like this at least give you like the tiniest little bit of a spidey sense that like, wow, there is a lot of frothy expectation and funding going toward very expensive projects right now with no clear proof that they're going to actually throw off revenue?

Plain English with Derek Thompson
Everybody Thinks AI Is a Bubble. What If They’re Wrong?

And here, let me argue with myself.

Plain English with Derek Thompson
Everybody Thinks AI Is a Bubble. What If They’re Wrong?

I remember talking to the folks from Stripe about what they were seeing on their platform of AI companies versus non-AI companies.

Plain English with Derek Thompson
Everybody Thinks AI Is a Bubble. What If They’re Wrong?

And they showed me really compelling data that shows that firms who self-describe as AI companies on Stripe are dominating revenue growth on the platform and surpassing the growth rate of any group in that platform's history.

Plain English with Derek Thompson
Everybody Thinks AI Is a Bubble. What If They’re Wrong?

So what's confusing to me, but also fascinating, is that it can simultaneously be true

Plain English with Derek Thompson
Everybody Thinks AI Is a Bubble. What If They’re Wrong?

that revenue growth for AI companies is astounding, and that the amount of spending on AI infrastructure is so much larger than the amount of revenue that we still might be looking at a bubble, like we're investing in a $1 trillion economic market as if it's a, say, $10 trillion economic market.

Plain English with Derek Thompson
Everybody Thinks AI Is a Bubble. What If They’re Wrong?

So that's where I think it's worth being very specific here.

Plain English with Derek Thompson
Everybody Thinks AI Is a Bubble. What If They’re Wrong?

And fortunately, your analysis is very specific.

Plain English with Derek Thompson
Everybody Thinks AI Is a Bubble. What If They’re Wrong?

You've said there is no one way to answer the question, is AI a bubble?

Plain English with Derek Thompson
Everybody Thinks AI Is a Bubble. What If They’re Wrong?

In fact, there are five ways.

Plain English with Derek Thompson
Everybody Thinks AI Is a Bubble. What If They’re Wrong?

There are five distinct tests.

Plain English with Derek Thompson
Everybody Thinks AI Is a Bubble. What If They’re Wrong?

And what I want to do in the rest of our time together is go through each of those tests.

Plain English with Derek Thompson
Everybody Thinks AI Is a Bubble. What If They’re Wrong?

So you define these tests as, and folks might not remember it as I say it now, but they'll remember it later.

Plain English with Derek Thompson
Everybody Thinks AI Is a Bubble. What If They’re Wrong?

economic strain, industry strain, revenue growth, valuation heat, and funding quality.

Plain English with Derek Thompson
Everybody Thinks AI Is a Bubble. What If They’re Wrong?

No need to remember those terms now.