Derek Thompson

Not that it's not real.

I think some people hear that and say, well, are you saying that my pain is not real?

No, no, no, no.

All pain is real.

All pain is real.

And all pain is in the brain.

Pain doesn't happen in your arm or in your back.

That's not where pain happens.

Pain happens based on the interpretation of signal, of data, just like we talked about earlier, those 11 million bits of information, that war and peace twice every second.

It's just data.

It's just information.

Now,

your brain's interpretation of that data is in fact what creates suffering.

So this has massive implications.

If you think about not only to medical science, we know that about 80% of healthcare spending is not spent on sickness.

It's spent on illness.

It's spent on curing the symptoms of those maladies.

So one is that we way underutilize, I think, the placebo effect today, that we should all be using placebos in one way or the other, and many of us do.

I think we should do more of that.

And also when it comes to our everyday pain points,