Derek Thompson

To me, the combination of those trends points to some eerie places.

How would you edit my edit or gloss of your philosophy here?

And then I want to get on to one final subject before I let you go.

What, what's the next Uber in this conception?

So, look, Dean, I don't like ending podcasts on a dark note, and the notion that artificial intelligence is an alien species that American law won't know what to do with is a fairly dark note.

So describe the brighter timeline here, because the truth is...

AI might be a normal technology, it might be an abnormal technology, but we still live in history.

And historically, what happens with new technology is that there's a period of confusion and chaos and even economic dislocation.

And then ultimately, we tend to figure it out.

So what would figuring it out look like from a governance perspective?

Yes, that's a really, really bad version.

Yeah, I hope that's not it.

I am less confident than you or Sam that we're certainly looking at a kind of step change in American life, right?

I've observed the way that AI, which I use quite frequently in my work and life, has changed sort of my hour to hour.

I don't feel like it has transformed the texture of my life, and I'm still not sure that even something as powerful as recursive self-improvement over years will necessarily change the moment to moment of a lot of people's lives.

It'll be a powerful technology, but will it change the experience of life

at the same level of plumbing or electricity.

I don't know yet.

But where I definitely agree is that

There are extremes that we want to avoid.