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Derek Thompson

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Plain English with Derek Thompson
Everybody Thinks AI Is a Bubble. What If They’re Wrong?

This is basically the question, are stocks overpriced?

Plain English with Derek Thompson
Everybody Thinks AI Is a Bubble. What If They’re Wrong?

And my god, are stocks going absolutely bonanzas if they have anything to do with artificial intelligence?

Plain English with Derek Thompson
Everybody Thinks AI Is a Bubble. What If They’re Wrong?

I mean, just a few statistics.

Plain English with Derek Thompson
Everybody Thinks AI Is a Bubble. What If They’re Wrong?

In the last two years, roughly 60% of the S&P 500's growth has come from AI-related companies like Microsoft, Nvidia, and Meta.

Plain English with Derek Thompson
Everybody Thinks AI Is a Bubble. What If They’re Wrong?

And if you look at the reason for why some of these companies' valuations are soaring, it often seems very circular.

Plain English with Derek Thompson
Everybody Thinks AI Is a Bubble. What If They’re Wrong?

So NVIDIA, for example, will say we're investing $100 billion in OpenAI.

Plain English with Derek Thompson
Everybody Thinks AI Is a Bubble. What If They’re Wrong?

But in return, OpenAI agrees to buy billions of dollars from NVIDIA.

Plain English with Derek Thompson
Everybody Thinks AI Is a Bubble. What If They’re Wrong?

And then I think just last week, OpenAI signed a deal with NVIDIA's rival, Advanced Micro Devices, AMD, to buy tens of billions of dollars worth of chips from them.

Plain English with Derek Thompson
Everybody Thinks AI Is a Bubble. What If They’re Wrong?

But in exchange, OpenAI is going to get like 10% of AMD.

Plain English with Derek Thompson
Everybody Thinks AI Is a Bubble. What If They’re Wrong?

I mean, it's like, I will buy a billion dollars from you if you give me a billion dollars worth of your stock.

Plain English with Derek Thompson
Everybody Thinks AI Is a Bubble. What If They’re Wrong?

At some point, this whole thing just seems like some incredibly interconnected spider web evaluations.

Plain English with Derek Thompson
Everybody Thinks AI Is a Bubble. What If They’re Wrong?

I guess I wonder how you see this as similar to or distinct from, say, the last bubble in tech, the dot-com bubble.

Plain English with Derek Thompson
Everybody Thinks AI Is a Bubble. What If They’re Wrong?

Is there any reason to worry that a vendor financing model that worked for a stable economic sector, like car buying in the middle of the 20th century...

Plain English with Derek Thompson
Everybody Thinks AI Is a Bubble. What If They’re Wrong?

might, if applied to a brand new sector like AI in the 21st century, present a kind of risk that we haven't seen before and don't know how to fully map onto historical analog.

Plain English with Derek Thompson
Everybody Thinks AI Is a Bubble. What If They’re Wrong?

Your final gauge, gauge five, you call funding quality and the coming credit strain.

Plain English with Derek Thompson
Everybody Thinks AI Is a Bubble. What If They’re Wrong?

By your calculation, about $3 trillion in global data center CapEx is going to be spent in the next three years, $3 trillion.

Plain English with Derek Thompson
Everybody Thinks AI Is a Bubble. What If They’re Wrong?

The big tech companies, which some call the hyperscalers, will be able to cover about half of that.

Plain English with Derek Thompson
Everybody Thinks AI Is a Bubble. What If They’re Wrong?

And the bottom line is that the other half,

Plain English with Derek Thompson
Everybody Thinks AI Is a Bubble. What If They’re Wrong?

The other $1.5 trillion has to come from somewhere else.

Plain English with Derek Thompson
Everybody Thinks AI Is a Bubble. What If They’re Wrong?

Maybe that somewhere else is private credit, securitized finance, new operators, maybe even governments.