Derek Thompson

unfamiliar to modern American history.

Does that generally sound right for you?

Or maybe the better way to hand this off to you, like persuade those who might be totally confused by the drama with which you see this, that America's governing norms really are in danger if the technology keeps improving at this rate.

I don't want you to be offended by what I'm about to say, but you kind of sound like a Biden administration person here.

I mean, it is the Biden administration that says if we give China access to the most advanced NVIDIA chips, they're going to build a surveillance society that makes 1984 look like...

kindergarten.

That's why we need to find some way to control access to this technology and trust, hopefully, that American institutions and American values of private property and privacy and, you know, rule of law, Fourth Amendment kind of stuff, that this can survive contact with artificial intelligence.

Why isn't

convinced me that this point of view is not perfectly in keeping with the Biden administration's now somewhat rejected philosophies of this tech.

Yeah.

Let me reflect back to you why I think, um,

the Dean Ball thesis that America's democracy governing norms might not survive contact with this technology as we know it.

I see two trains coming down the track.

Train number one is the rise of executive power.

It's not just the Trump administration, although it is certainly the Trump administration.

You've seen over the last few cycles that as presidents have recognized that Congress is basically a do-nothing body, the president has concentrated more power in the executive office through the issuing of executive orders, or in Trump's case, just, you know,

starting a de facto war without asking Congress for permission and Congress essentially saying, we don't even want to force Trump to ask for permission.

I think you saw the same thing with tariffs.

Typically, an Article I job for Congress, in this case, something that the executive office can do through AIPA and now some other rule after the Supreme Court ruling.

In any case, you have train one, rise of executive power.