Derek Thompson

And here comes train two.

And train two, I like the way you put it.

Train two is that

Various ways of subverting the privacy and private property rights of Americans that used to be labor-intensive and expensive are going to become dirt cheap.

And that combination seems a little scary to me, that you have power that is not deliberative, that exists outside the legislative body, combined with these new abilities that

to surveil Americans or to dispatch an extraordinary technology without asking Congress permission.

To me, the combination of those trends points to some eerie places.

How would you edit my edit or gloss of your philosophy here?

And then I want to get on to one final subject before I let you go.

What, what's the next Uber in this conception?

So, look, Dean, I don't like ending podcasts on a dark note, and the notion that artificial intelligence is an alien species that American law won't know what to do with is a fairly dark note.

So describe the brighter timeline here, because the truth is...

AI might be a normal technology, it might be an abnormal technology, but we still live in history.

And historically, what happens with new technology is that there's a period of confusion and chaos and even economic dislocation.

And then ultimately, we tend to figure it out.

So what would figuring it out look like from a governance perspective?

Yes, that's a really, really bad version.

Yeah, I hope that's not it.

I am less confident than you or Sam that we're certainly looking at a kind of step change in American life, right?

I've observed the way that AI, which I use quite frequently in my work and life, has changed sort of my hour to hour.