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Ciara, we'd be stuck in the sand if we keep going down this road.

We won't live.

We'll stop living.

At the end of the day, right, and this is my view,

Yes, I acknowledge the slight changes, absolutely.

But nothing me or you or that caller on the other line is going to change what's going to happen.

I mean, oil and gas and all these things that we say that are causing all this, they're built into everyday living.

They're in your clothes, they're in your pens, they're in your computers.

We don't have alternatives.

By-products are everywhere from oil and gas.

Do you know, and people get stuck...

Oh, we need to get our footprint down.

We're going to get our footprint down.

You know, as I said to your researcher there, Ciara, the war on climate change ain't going to be won in this country.

I mean, you know, per capita, they'll throw it out there per person.

We are putting out X amount or whatever, and we're one of the leaders in the world.

But on collective as a country, we're so far down the pecking order, we'd be forgotten about if you actually looked into it.

You know, and I think it's an easier way to go per capita per person than it is to go collective as a country.

And, you know, look, listen, enjoy the sunshine.

It'll be gone before the weekend, you know.