Detective

No, no, no.

That's part of the murder investigation, not part of this investigation.

That's almost better than a confession.

Oh, they're putting the noose around her neck right now.

You know, I think Helen has got graves in her name all over the country.

We have another one in East LA for her, actually waiting for her, that Mr. Vados occupied for a short while.

Mr. Vados, he had nothing in his toxological reports to indicate that he was inebriated or on drugs or there was nothing in his system.

He was just a frail little old man and they very easily just could have pushed him down and then drove over him.

And I don't think he would be able to get up too quickly.

His body was crushed?

Absolutely.

And scraped?

Well, they referred to the coroner's office a number of abraded injuries, which

which is basically the tearing of flesh from the body and clothing.

And as he is being somewhat dragged and rubbed under the car against this rough surface here, his body is tearing apart, as are his clothes.

And he is being snapped and crunched and just brutally murdered.

This is a horrible, horrible death.

There's nothing instant about it.

It'd be like driving over a pile of rocks.

I mean, you just kind of move and push along until it's done, and then you go on about your business and go file your claim forms.