Devi Sridhar

Like these gains are because, you know, a couple centuries ago, people realized water and sanitation were a major reason.

That, you know, not having those where people were dying with John Snow, with the cholera epidemic in London, and then since then, waterborne diseases.

And if we don't kind of maintain those gains and invest in these systems, you know, people die.

And I give the example also of places where it's not yet fixed, like Haiti.

Waterborne diseases are the number one cause of dying too soon.

Right.

And so also to provide the example that just because of where we live, we could be like in a very kind of bubble where it works, but there are many places that it doesn't work.

And we have to not only fix those, but think about making sure we maintain where we are.

Yeah, I mean, I think this is almost like the elephant in the room for a lot of issues.

I'll give you an example.

So we know GLP-1s are seen as these wonder drugs.

So I was asked, should we just distribute them in Scotland or even obesity problems to the NHS to supply them and give them to children?

And I said, but my question back is,

Why is it that you can correlate house prices to childhood obesity?

That actually I can tell you where obesity is based on house prices.

That tells me it's not a metabolic issue.

It's not that these children are different in terms of their biological makeup.

It tells me it's where they're living and probably what things cost.

And that's where inequality comes into it.

And it's a really tricky conversation because it gets into how do you actually create some kind of balance within a society and looking at the bottom 20 or 30 percent and saying, how do we lift people up who are really struggling?