Devi Sridhar

Absolutely astonishing to see.

And so, yeah, I think sometimes it is good to be American, but to live in different places, to travel to different places, to see actually there are lots of different ways to do things.

There are a lot of different ways that, you know,

societies run and operate often very effectively.

And I think what really does scare me as well in the States is kind of the rise of like the lack of freedom of speech now to be able to say things.

But even as you have that as that, can you dissent?

And I can just say, that's one thing I'm very happy about in Scotland, that you can dissent and you can criticize government and you can say, and that's considered healthy and part of the dynamic of,

But let's hope it's a few years and, you know, the arc continues towards progress.

But, yeah, absolutely astonishing to see it from abroad and actually really devastating, I think, in terms of the cutback in scientific grants and the dismantling of CDC and the FDA and so many essential American institutions abroad.

Because America is, regardless of where you are in the world, the most influential country in terms of health.

I think we accept that in different places.

Often the American news dominates here.

When I'm back in the States, it is the American news.

Rarely another country dominates in the same way.

So I wish those living there strength in these difficult times to get through because it is a difficult patch.

I'm working on a column now actually about the Make America Healthy Again movement.

The idea being that there are nuggets of truth.

I think you and I would accept America's health needs more work, needs more investment.

But the solutions, I think, are very different in terms of what you would be doing, the policies, the programs, if you actually wanted to address that.

So, yeah, difficult, difficult times.