Devorah Roloff

That he was just holding her down there?

Yeah.

Right.

Right.

Sorry, I knew I was going to jump.

No, I'm following along perfect.

I'll tell you if I'm ever not or if it's getting confusing.

And I know it's hard to not jump back and forth because it's like you're.

I was going to ask you, do they have a good relationship?

Other than obviously that, but prior to that, how was their relationship together?

So that situation, do you think it was just kind of like, did she say it was?

a one-off type of situation or did things like that happen sometimes?

Right.

Cause I was going to say, maybe she didn't call the cops because it was still so surprising and shocking to her in a sense.

Yeah.

You know, like even if she had an idea in her mind, like, Oh, things are going downhill.

I mean, if you love somebody and you do have so many things that you enjoy doing with them, I think it's kind of like, you know what I mean?

I feel like you have that internal battle of do I call to protect myself and my kids or do I…

say maybe he's just really going through it you know right to the extreme right but it's like it's so you can't put yourself in the position unless you're like in it i feel like with things like that it's so easy for people i think in general like when they hear stories to be like why don't you do this or that and it's like especially when you're in shock too yeah you know what i mean like absolutely yes yeah it's hard it's very hard and

Yeah.