Devorah Roloff

And what does the search consist of?

darkness it's negativity and your gut can feel the energy it's bad energy it is very very bad energy and like I think too you know when you think of a child and the innocence of a child and how you know in your childhood you have all these like you don't think about anything serious you know so I think being put into such a serious environment that is so scary and so intimidating and you know so dark I think it it

it makes sense how it could make a child feel like, you know, all their innocence is just being sucked out of them.

And it seems like she was very open with you guys.

It's a huge adjustment.

So interesting because that mindset makes so much sense in that type of environment.

But then, you know, it's like it does go to show that you can't really just like snap out of it because that was his life.

I mean, he was I think when you're in prison, you still have that kind of like you're in survival mode.

Well, I think too, you know, as a child, if there's ever something that you can't do, I think in a circumstance or situation like that, naturally it's like you don't – I feel like you don't really know many emotions and you don't understand really a lot of what's going on.

So the first thing I think you jump to is embarrassment because technically in that situation you're not fitting in.

You know what I mean?

Like you're not able to participate.

And it hurts.

I think it hurts.

I think it's, it feels, it's not embarrassing, but it feels embarrassing.

You know, and it's, I think for a child, that's so difficult.

When he got out the first time, did you have any type of fear of him when he moved back in with you guys?

Or were you just mainly excited?

No.

What about your mom?