Dia Hadid

You know, it's so interesting, Scott, because for days analysts were saying that the Americans were not being serious. The Secretary of State, Marco Rubio, they said was just making phone calls. And then Vice President J.D. Vance went on Fox on Thursday saying they wanted a de-escalation, but...

But, you know, then I spoke to Abdullah Khan. He's with the Pakistan Institute for Conflict and Security Studies. And he told me America was waiting.

But, you know, then I spoke to Abdullah Khan. He's with the Pakistan Institute for Conflict and Security Studies. And he told me America was waiting.

But, you know, then I spoke to Abdullah Khan. He's with the Pakistan Institute for Conflict and Security Studies. And he told me America was waiting.

Yeah, Khan tells me that Pakistan was waiting for a moment that it could sell to its people that, you know, they had showed India. That would allow them to save face and step down. And India is trying to attract manufacturing from companies that are leaving China because of Trump's tariffs. It's not a time for war.

Yeah, Khan tells me that Pakistan was waiting for a moment that it could sell to its people that, you know, they had showed India. That would allow them to save face and step down. And India is trying to attract manufacturing from companies that are leaving China because of Trump's tariffs. It's not a time for war.

Yeah, Khan tells me that Pakistan was waiting for a moment that it could sell to its people that, you know, they had showed India. That would allow them to save face and step down. And India is trying to attract manufacturing from companies that are leaving China because of Trump's tariffs. It's not a time for war.

You're welcome, Scott.

You're welcome, Scott.

You're welcome, Scott.

Good morning, Laila.

Good morning, Laila.

Good morning, Laila.

Right. Well, the Pakistani army spokesman, Lieutenant General Ahmed Sharif, accused India of sending across 25 Israeli-made drones this morning. He says some of them flew over major population centres, including Karachi, which is the biggest city in the country with 20 million people, and crucially Rawalpindi, which is home to Pakistan's general military headquarters.

Right. Well, the Pakistani army spokesman, Lieutenant General Ahmed Sharif, accused India of sending across 25 Israeli-made drones this morning. He says some of them flew over major population centres, including Karachi, which is the biggest city in the country with 20 million people, and crucially Rawalpindi, which is home to Pakistan's general military headquarters.

Right. Well, the Pakistani army spokesman, Lieutenant General Ahmed Sharif, accused India of sending across 25 Israeli-made drones this morning. He says some of them flew over major population centres, including Karachi, which is the biggest city in the country with 20 million people, and crucially Rawalpindi, which is home to Pakistan's general military headquarters.

Sharif says they shot down all the drones, except for one that targeted an old airport in Lahore. He says four military personnel were injured and one civilian killed. Sharif just spoke to the media in English. That's a signal that his message is for the West.

Sharif says they shot down all the drones, except for one that targeted an old airport in Lahore. He says four military personnel were injured and one civilian killed. Sharif just spoke to the media in English. That's a signal that his message is for the West.

Sharif says they shot down all the drones, except for one that targeted an old airport in Lahore. He says four military personnel were injured and one civilian killed. Sharif just spoke to the media in English. That's a signal that his message is for the West.

What he's referring to there, Leila, is India's Hindu nationalist government, which had vowed retribution for a militant attack in late April, where gunmen opened fire on tourists in a meadow, killing 26. India blamed Pakistan for that attack. Pakistan says it's not connected, but it's that incident which triggered these escalations.