Dia Hadid

What he's referring to there, Leila, is India's Hindu nationalist government, which had vowed retribution for a militant attack in late April, where gunmen opened fire on tourists in a meadow, killing 26. India blamed Pakistan for that attack. Pakistan says it's not connected, but it's that incident which triggered these escalations.

What he's referring to there, Leila, is India's Hindu nationalist government, which had vowed retribution for a militant attack in late April, where gunmen opened fire on tourists in a meadow, killing 26. India blamed Pakistan for that attack. Pakistan says it's not connected, but it's that incident which triggered these escalations.

At this point, yes. But if I can step back a bit, when India struck Pakistan earlier this week, the Indian military had quickly signalled they were not seeking an escalation. And Pakistan said it shot down five Indian military aircraft. And analysts told me they were waiting to see if that would be enough for Pakistan to show its people that the army was defending the country.

At this point, yes. But if I can step back a bit, when India struck Pakistan earlier this week, the Indian military had quickly signalled they were not seeking an escalation. And Pakistan said it shot down five Indian military aircraft. And analysts told me they were waiting to see if that would be enough for Pakistan to show its people that the army was defending the country.

At this point, yes. But if I can step back a bit, when India struck Pakistan earlier this week, the Indian military had quickly signalled they were not seeking an escalation. And Pakistan said it shot down five Indian military aircraft. And analysts told me they were waiting to see if that would be enough for Pakistan to show its people that the army was defending the country.

Even this morning, the Pakistani deputy prime minister confirmed that national security advisers of both countries had spoken to each other. So it was looking hopeful. But then the accusation happened of India sending drones over Pakistani airspace. So Ajay Shukla, he is a retired Indian Army colonel, and he says any new development here changes all calculations.

Even this morning, the Pakistani deputy prime minister confirmed that national security advisers of both countries had spoken to each other. So it was looking hopeful. But then the accusation happened of India sending drones over Pakistani airspace. So Ajay Shukla, he is a retired Indian Army colonel, and he says any new development here changes all calculations.

Even this morning, the Pakistani deputy prime minister confirmed that national security advisers of both countries had spoken to each other. So it was looking hopeful. But then the accusation happened of India sending drones over Pakistani airspace. So Ajay Shukla, he is a retired Indian Army colonel, and he says any new development here changes all calculations.

Not so far, but India's foreign minister has just said if the country is attacked, there'll be a firm response. And it's important to remember already in this latest escalation, there are casualties, more than 30 people on the Pakistani side, including children, and more than 12 people killed in India.

Not so far, but India's foreign minister has just said if the country is attacked, there'll be a firm response. And it's important to remember already in this latest escalation, there are casualties, more than 30 people on the Pakistani side, including children, and more than 12 people killed in India.

Not so far, but India's foreign minister has just said if the country is attacked, there'll be a firm response. And it's important to remember already in this latest escalation, there are casualties, more than 30 people on the Pakistani side, including children, and more than 12 people killed in India.

And that doesn't even include the 26 people who were killed by gunmen in late April, which triggered this whole escalation.

And that doesn't even include the 26 people who were killed by gunmen in late April, which triggered this whole escalation.

And that doesn't even include the 26 people who were killed by gunmen in late April, which triggered this whole escalation.

Thank you, Leila.

Thank you, Leila.

Thank you, Leila.

Yeah, and most people were sleeping, eh? But a resident near one of the worst hit places in southern Pakistan recorded this audio. And even in a nearby town, one resident said the strikes woke up his family. This is Ajaz Rao.

Yeah, and most people were sleeping, eh? But a resident near one of the worst hit places in southern Pakistan recorded this audio. And even in a nearby town, one resident said the strikes woke up his family. This is Ajaz Rao.

Yeah, and most people were sleeping, eh? But a resident near one of the worst hit places in southern Pakistan recorded this audio. And even in a nearby town, one resident said the strikes woke up his family. This is Ajaz Rao.