Diana Pasulka

Yeah, yeah. That's what I asked, too. So when we're taught in college or high school, we're taught the Plato's Republic thing, the Allegory of the Cave, and, you know, if you pay attention— you know that these people are in a cave and these puppet masters are making puppets on the wall and people think that that's reality.

Yeah, yeah. That's what I asked, too. So when we're taught in college or high school, we're taught the Plato's Republic thing, the Allegory of the Cave, and, you know, if you pay attention— you know that these people are in a cave and these puppet masters are making puppets on the wall and people think that that's reality.

And then one lucky person gets out and goes up out of the cave and says, wow, you know, there's a whole reality out here. I have an obligation to go back and tell these people that they're in a cave. They go back to tell the person they're in the cave. And this is how Socrates talks about it. He says... They'll kill you because they think you're crazy. And in fact, they think that person is crazy.

And then one lucky person gets out and goes up out of the cave and says, wow, you know, there's a whole reality out here. I have an obligation to go back and tell these people that they're in a cave. They go back to tell the person they're in the cave. And this is how Socrates talks about it. He says... They'll kill you because they think you're crazy. And in fact, they think that person is crazy.

And then one lucky person gets out and goes up out of the cave and says, wow, you know, there's a whole reality out here. I have an obligation to go back and tell these people that they're in a cave. They go back to tell the person they're in the cave. And this is how Socrates talks about it. He says... They'll kill you because they think you're crazy. And in fact, they think that person is crazy.

Okay. So, all right. So that's kind of the setup. My question has always been, you know, and then you talk about it as a metaphor in college and stuff, and your professor talks about it. But my question was this, was, and my daughter, by the way, took a college class and it was on that. And so I said, who do you think those puppet masters are? And she said, mama, that's just an allegory.

Okay. So, all right. So that's kind of the setup. My question has always been, you know, and then you talk about it as a metaphor in college and stuff, and your professor talks about it. But my question was this, was, and my daughter, by the way, took a college class and it was on that. And so I said, who do you think those puppet masters are? And she said, mama, that's just an allegory.

Okay. So, all right. So that's kind of the setup. My question has always been, you know, and then you talk about it as a metaphor in college and stuff, and your professor talks about it. But my question was this, was, and my daughter, by the way, took a college class and it was on that. And so I said, who do you think those puppet masters are? And she said, mama, that's just an allegory.

There are no real puppet masters. And I was like, no, I think there are. I think there are. Think about it again. Go read it again. And so then I'd ask friends of mine who, you know, had read it and should know. And they were like, dang, I never thought about that. Finally, I found a philosopher who reached out to me, actually, saw me on a podcast and said, these puppet masters, I agree with you.

There are no real puppet masters. And I was like, no, I think there are. I think there are. Think about it again. Go read it again. And so then I'd ask friends of mine who, you know, had read it and should know. And they were like, dang, I never thought about that. Finally, I found a philosopher who reached out to me, actually, saw me on a podcast and said, these puppet masters, I agree with you.

There are no real puppet masters. And I was like, no, I think there are. I think there are. Think about it again. Go read it again. And so then I'd ask friends of mine who, you know, had read it and should know. And they were like, dang, I never thought about that. Finally, I found a philosopher who reached out to me, actually, saw me on a podcast and said, these puppet masters, I agree with you.

They are a real thing. Like, Plato just doesn't put something in there. So who are these puppet masters? I think that's where George Orwell identifies it. And you know who agrees is Aldous Huxley. Aldous Huxley.

They are a real thing. Like, Plato just doesn't put something in there. So who are these puppet masters? I think that's where George Orwell identifies it. And you know who agrees is Aldous Huxley. Aldous Huxley.

They are a real thing. Like, Plato just doesn't put something in there. So who are these puppet masters? I think that's where George Orwell identifies it. And you know who agrees is Aldous Huxley. Aldous Huxley.

So he has all your viewers, everyone should watch Aldous Huxley's, I think it's 1958 talk, maybe it's in the 60s, but I don't think so, at UC Berkeley, where he basically talks about the puppet masters. And it's his group.

So he has all your viewers, everyone should watch Aldous Huxley's, I think it's 1958 talk, maybe it's in the 60s, but I don't think so, at UC Berkeley, where he basically talks about the puppet masters. And it's his group.

So he has all your viewers, everyone should watch Aldous Huxley's, I think it's 1958 talk, maybe it's in the 60s, but I don't think so, at UC Berkeley, where he basically talks about the puppet masters. And it's his group.

It's an oligarchy. Yeah, he says it's the oligarchy. He goes, it's always existed and presumably always will. That's how he opens his speech. It's a horrifying, enlightening talk. Everyone should watch it. It's free. Just internet search it, duck, duck, go it, or whatnot. It'll come up. And he's a super articulate elite speaker. And he writes Brave New World.

It's an oligarchy. Yeah, he says it's the oligarchy. He goes, it's always existed and presumably always will. That's how he opens his speech. It's a horrifying, enlightening talk. Everyone should watch it. It's free. Just internet search it, duck, duck, go it, or whatnot. It'll come up. And he's a super articulate elite speaker. And he writes Brave New World.

It's an oligarchy. Yeah, he says it's the oligarchy. He goes, it's always existed and presumably always will. That's how he opens his speech. It's a horrifying, enlightening talk. Everyone should watch it. It's free. Just internet search it, duck, duck, go it, or whatnot. It'll come up. And he's a super articulate elite speaker. And he writes Brave New World.