Diana Walsh Pasulka

They know this is the wrong way.

And it motivates the zeitgeist to move into a different direction, which I think is happening.

These people specifically?

The general population would kill you.

So I want to take it back to that because a lot of this is probably hard to follow for people that aren't like well read in this.

When you say that they have been engineering or orchestrating public perception of this experience from the beginning, what's the earliest known instance of this?

What's the term?

Especially in a very disciplined and structured environment like high-level military.

So they have a perception.

And one of the things that you said earlier is that they think that the greater population is not good and that they will turn on you and that they're evil.

How so?

How were you harassed?

Just simply because those people are contacting you or specific reasons why you would think it's dangerous?

Right.

That you could suffer consequences for your curiosity or for your research.

And that they would punish you or you could be punished.

No, most certainly.

And what is it about the research and what is about what you could possibly uncover that would be so dangerous?

How did you get harassed?

People?