Diana Walsh Pasulka

Do they have full crafts?

What did you see when you went to the crash site?

And another... And this is on the ground at the crash site?

Is there a scientific term for these particular types of metals?

Metamaterials.

Yeah.

And they're layered in some sort of a way where it's like literally like atom upon atom.

People are very cagey about it.

Like Jacques Vallée was very cagey about the way he was willing to describe it and the way he was willing to describe these things.

It's almost like they don't want to blurt out too much because it'll cut off access.

Right.

Right, especially if someone else can figure out how to use these things.

So when you go to this site, do you see the physical ground where this thing hit?

How big are these pieces?

It doesn't seem ridiculous to me at all.

Well, the strategy for disseminating disinformation along with real information has long been used.

Where they'll say a bunch of really ridiculous things and connect them to something that's probably real.

Right.

And that way everything gets thrown out.

It's the baby with the bathwater.