Diana Walsh Pasulka

There's something about it that seems like horseshit.

But there's also something about it that seems real.

When you listen to Betty and Barney Hill, when they're talking, boy, that sounds like people talking about a real thing.

Boy, that sounds like a real experience.

It really does.

And these people like the Whitley Strybers, these people that talk about these experiences that happen at night, we know for a fact that when you are sleeping, your brain is producing endogenous psychedelic chemicals.

We have no idea why.

We have no idea what the purpose of those things are.

We have no idea what the quantity is.

We used to think until recently, they weren't even exactly sure like where it was being produced.

But now through Strassman's work,

And through the work of the Cottonwood Research Foundation, the people that do those DMT studies, they know that now your brain is producing this.

And so is your brain – is it producing a chemical gateway into another dimension?

And is that why these people are experiencing these abduction – air quote, abduction experiences?

these encounters, let's say encounters, is that why they're happening at night?

Is that why they're happening while they're lying in bed?

Because that seems to make way more sense.

Please.

Can we just start with how did you get involved in this?

And please just tell people your background.