Diana Walsh Pasulka

He goes, they gave it to me for free.

And I was like, didn't you want a 15?

He's like, doesn't it do the same thing?

I'm like, it really does.

But I wanted a 15 when it came out.

I have zero difference between my 15 and my 14.

I had to get the 15.

You know, it's like there's something connected to us that wants the latest, greatest, and we're connected to this idea of materialism.

And if you looked at the human being,

As an organism.

And you were separate from it.

And you said, well, what does this thing do?

Well, this thing makes better things constantly.

That's all it does.

It does a lot of other stuff.

But even the better things it does, like when wars to control resources, why do they want resources?

So they can make better things.

It's all about better things.

It's all about more control so that they have more access to more materials, to more better things.

And that always, if you're dealing with intelligence and you're dealing with technological evolution and technological innovation, it's going to lead to artificial life or a life, a new kind of life.